Primadonna ESAM6850 Water drips / leaks

Hello everyone, I hope very much that you help me further.
And indeed, for a short time after each use of the coffee machine water stands under the drip tray, it looks as if it drips past the coffee grounds container.
In addition, there is also water in the drip tray, which I never had before because there is always a cup underneath.
4 years old and 1650 covers.

Hello,

try making a coffee with the door open. To do this, press the door switch at the top with an object.
Maybe you can see where the water comes from. In the picture it looks like you can see traces above the puddle on the right where it runs down.

Thanks for your tip, so really I could not see it where the water comes from however is very much water in the brew group I think it will drip down there.
What can it be related that there is so much water.

Have you ever cleaned and serviced the brew group? Does the brew group run easily? It should be possible to push the filter down easily with your thumb.
Unscrew the filter and clean it. Clean the crema valve at the same time. There are enough instructions on the net.

Shine a light from below into the brewing chamber and see if there is water in the yellow cup.

I have times a completely new brew group installed, the coffee tastes better now but with the water under the drip tray it is now even worse.

In the yellow cup above ? There is no water to be seen.
Is it perhaps the orange seal of the yellow cup?

If the is worn it can also press water upwards during the brewing process.
However, the brewing unit is on top when coffee is brewed. Does the water run under the drip tray?

So probably not the seal from the piston.
Yes exactly it runs under the drip tray.

I just noticed something on the top of the picture. I marked it. Is it wet there?

The hose is on, think the stain is from the steam.

Okay, it looked like that in the one picture. How long does it take to get the amount there? One cover? Several? Drip tray isn't cracked?
There are not so many possibilities where the water comes from.

After a cover there is already water.
Ne no crack.
It looks like it runs down the brew group.

You could check the black hose to see if it is still connected.