Clatronic KAV 2936

Hello,

I am thinking about buying the machine mentioned in the topic. Can
one recommend these or should one better take one from Bomann
which seems to be identical in construction.

What should this machine cost max. if it is already used
? Or you should better keep your fingers off the machine.

Greeting
Hajo

I would leave my fingers off both devices.
Experience says that you will only have problems with these devices.
Reliable, good quality and uper price performance the Delonghi devices have.
Here you have fun with the KV.

Now there would be my personal advice

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Kaffeevollautomaten:
Delonghi ESAM 3000B (2 Moante sehr zufreiden)
Saeco Talea Ring Plus (3 Monate UNzufreiden)
Jura ENA5 (1 Jahr super zufrieden)
Siemens EQ7 (8 Monate Anfangs toll dannach genervt 2 x zur Reparatur einmal neue BG ueber Support angefordert)
WMF 800 seit 1.12.09 Klasse
Siebträger
Bezzera BZ07 DE mit Bezzera BB005 Timer (Mühle) seit Mai 2011
Nespresso Krups XN 2720 für die Arbeit

Can only connect me to ristretto.
These devices are unfortunately not worth the plastic from which they are baked (of course I tested the devices myself). You will be annoyed about every cent you spent for it.
If you are looking for a new device: indeed buy a small Delonghi, on the used device sector I recommend as an entry-level device an AEG CaFamosa 80-120 or a Krups Orchestro 889/890, are available with dealer warranty in the range 150 €.

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Grüße, Manuel

Jura ENA Micro 9 (Küche)
Jura xF50 (Büro)
wechselnde Besetzung in der Werkstatt...
P.S.: Support gibt's im Forum, nicht per PN o.ä.

Hello,

have seen now probably a somewhat older Krups Orchestro F889
would that be something for the beginning? or better also there the
leave fingers of??

greeting

Hello first of all,
this is my first contribution and hope it is helpful.

As such a Clatronic/Bohmann I had also bought at the beginning, that was
about 4 years ago. And would never do it again.
The machines were generally very loud, especially the brewing group, which did not use a tupe of silicone grease either. Then the coffee became really hot only after the 3 coffee butternander.
At the beginning of 2007 I bought a Saeco TX550 at PLUS for 349€ and was very satisfied, a few days ago it didn't start to build up any reasonable pressure anymore and the coffee only came out as plöre. But this can be fixed (new pump costs 20€round). The display has been bitching for 3 months (20€)
But you'll be back to fix it. It pays off in any case. the machine has had about 13500 covers in
round 2 1/2 years.(thirteen thousand five hundred).
The small machine can also get tired sometimes. But still very recommendable.

Last Tuesday I bought myself a Jura ENA 5.
And I have to admit it is a very easy to use machine.
Where a wonderful coffee/espresso and milk foam can be produced.
Disadvantage is: The menus and the adjustment options are very limited.
Of course I love deep adjustment options, but that's not necessary with the machine. Find them preset as good.

I hofe, I might help.

Greeting
Bully