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Gregorthom

July 17, 2009 03:51 pm

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The filter reduces the lime content to 7-8°dH, depending on the manufacturer, VAs with this water hardness want to be decalcified after approx. 150 litres of water.
Often it is also recommended to decalcify at least 1x/quarter when using a filter.

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July 18, 2009 01:32 pm

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Thanks for the tips. The manual says that you should uncool every 6 months. Is that already too much or bad at the limit?



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Gregorthom

July 20, 2009 10:19 am

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Personally, I think this interval is too long. It does not harm the machine in any way to decalcify earlier.

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August 05, 2009 12:18 am

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Six months is way too long. If the machine says nothing when it wants to be decalcified, every 3 months it has to be decalcified. Waiting longer is harmful to the machine.

Decalcifying is also good for your wallet because you firstly save repair costs if something breaks due to calcification and secondly the power consumption of calcified machines is higher than normal. And these machines already draw enough electricity.



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Gast_Marco

October 13, 2009 05:19 pm

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Hello everybody,

I just wanted to find a picture for a friend, what happens if you do not decalcify the coffee machine regularly... I have probably found a good example with it.

To spare you this, I recommend the decalcifier from ceragol ultra! For all who are interested www.ceragol.com . The homepage is very informative and clearly arranged. (Even with videos ^^)

Many greetings
Marco

Helmut Boe

October 14, 2009 08:05 am

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Hello Marco,
beautiful advertisement for completely overpriced products: 10l descaler for approx. 65, - €, that goes - with same effect - also approx. 20€ cheaper, e.g. Schuemli descaler, s. E-Bucht.

greeting < br>helmuteness

Gast_Marco

October 14, 2009 09:03 am

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Good morning Helmut,

mag be that the decalcifier is not the cheapest but for appropriate quality I am willing to pay a bit more.

I am very happy with the decalcifier and just wanted to say that here. Also don't consume 10L in a year/month, because I only have one fully automatic coffee machine at home. In addition, 500ml can also be used to descale a proud 5 times, which corresponds to approx. 1.60 euros per descaling process. This is it me my espresso machine value.

Many greetings
Marco

Gast_Steffen

February 06, 2010 10:01 pm

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Moinsen,


The green one in your container, could be due to copper lines.

Not harmless to health...

Greß

antolari

February 07, 2010 12:46 am

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QUOTE (Gast_Marco @ Wednesday, 14.October 2009, 08:03 hrs)


mag be that the decalcifier is not the cheapest but for appropriate quality I am willing to pay a bit more.



You should have liked us to spend a bit more on the decalcifier. And we're supposed to buy yours, of course.

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February 09, 2010 03:52 pm

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Even if it doesn't really fit to the topic again ;-)


But as I read here:

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the green one in your tank, could be due to copper pipes


coincided with my hot kettle being in use more or less daily, in a territory where there is virtually no lime in the pipe. Is such a stainless steel part without visible heating spirals.

There a greenish or even bluish layer (too little at the moment to be able to recognize it properly) forms on the ground over time (years), where presumably the spirals are underneath. They can be removed with stubborn decalcification in many decalcification processes. Had also asked a chemist about it before, he didn't know how to make such a right rhyme about it.

Maybe somebody here has an idea of what it could be?! verdigris or patina it can hardly be.



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ThoNi81

May 13, 2010 04:13 pm

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QUOTE (Gregorthom @ Monday, July 20, 2009)July 2009, 10:19 am)
Personally, I consider this interval too long. It does not harm the machine in any way to decalcify earlier.

Greeting
Gregor

ach no... what should the machine remove if no lime is present? then seals and material are attacked...

all (!) fully automatic machines have a corresponding indicator. it is important to set the machine correctly so that the machine also indicates decalcification at the correct time.

- hardness

- with or without filter

- these are two things the machine needs to know to display correctly when decalcifying is back on the line!!!!

Helmut Boe

May 13, 2010 06:54 pm

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Hello Thoni,
when using the expensive Claris filters always, so even if the seminar leaders of Jura claim something different, a regular decalcification is necessary. With an interval of 6 months you are on the safe side, every 4 months is better.

Greß
Helmut

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May 13, 2010 07:12 pm

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By the way, if a machine comes to the central service of Jura after singing, it is always decalcified wink.gif laugh.gif

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June 09, 2010 08:41 pm

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I have a question about decalcifying: We have very hard water here and the filter, which according to the packaging lasts 2 months, should be replaced after 2 weeks (approx. 250 covers in the time). Is that correct? But then that will be too expensive for me! I can decalcify it every 2 weeks, or?

Helmut Boe

June 10, 2010 06:24 am

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Hello,
as already explained several times: Remove filter, adjust water hardness correctly and decalcify when requested. This can also be done after two weeks with hardness range 4 and correspondingly ample covers.

Helmut

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