Which seals are really important?

I have only recently discovered my passion for coffee, before I had never really gotten a taste for it. This is a real jungle, the coffee world! One hears all kinds of bad things about working conditions and dealing with the environment. And as I had to find out, there are all sorts of different seals to mark that the coffee comes from fair and environmentally friendly production. But which seal can I really trust? What are you looking at? Or don't you care?

With coffee I am primarily interested in taste.
On fair production conditions I have a completely different opinion than the media and crochet sweaters wearing cyclists want to suggest to us...
And I think environmentally friendly is no production that wants to make profits. This can currently be seen in the subject of glyphosate or diesel. If there is a lot of money behind it, nobody is interested any more, even with us here...

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QUOTE (Danceman @ Tuesday, April 24, 2018, 17:44 hrs)April 2018, 17:44 hrs)

Coffee is primarily about taste.

I see it the same way, coffee is a stimulant for me and the taste counts for a long time and then nothing comes anymore.

If my favourite coffee is still organic or Fairtrade, good, but no main criterion for KAuf.

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If my favorite coffee is still organic or fairtrade, good, but no main criterion for KAuf.

I see that as well, but I don't need that either to calm my conscience and go over to the agenda. We are already trying to save the whole world, so maybe the world should also help a little bit...

But if we have managed to free the little girl in Bangladesh from sewing the clothes for cheap chains, we can be very proud that she now has to go on the streets so that the little siblings get a bowl of rice to eat. And then we send back our out-of-fashion cheap shirt by the container, generously as we are eco-dummies! so that their brothers and sisters also get something to wear. So the recycling circle closes for our good conscience, and everyone is happy!
well, the little girl maybe not so, because she lost a good and serious job, and does not like the new job so much. But we don't know the little one personally anyway. Eco also has its price. And if we save the whole world for it, don't let the little one bitch. Even bad jobs have to be done by somebody...

OH! Special brochure of KIK! Total favourable. I'll take a look right now! And for my conscience I have my Fairtrade coffee...

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Realist: Mist, da kommt ein Zug...
Zugführer: Was machen die 3 Deppen auf den Gleisen?

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QUOTE If my favorite coffee is still organic or fairtrade, fine, but no main criterion for KAuf. We're already trying to save the whole world, so maybe the world should help out a bit...

With dubious success and an extrme high import quota for organic foods. Whether the CO2 load of the transport justifies the whole Bio-Hype - in my eyes not.

But to my reassurance, my preferred coffee is bought by the coffee roaster directly from the plantation owner, is traceable - because so-called "coffee" is a coffee that is not produced by the plantation owner. Single-Finca-Coffee, i.e. there are only beans of one variety from one plantation in it and on the website of the roaster you will find all information about the plantation owner and his coffee.

And by the way, some varieties are cultivated according to organic standards.

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Of course it is always associated with a certain financial effort to live "fairtrade" and "eco" but I think you can at least try it!
If I already buy food that is imported from other countries, I can at least make sure that it did not have too bad an impact on the environment and all people in the chain..

For coffee and chocolate one very often comes across the "Fairtrade seal", which provides better social conditions, no exploitative child labour, prohibits the use of some chemicals and is intended to promote sustainable cultivation. Of course there is a lot of criticism about this seal (sovereignty of interpretation is contested) but generally there is nothing wrong with it.
There is also still the stricter GEPA fair+ seal, which you don't find so often in shops.

The attitude that people don't consider the environment and workers in their everyday life is still the norm. Just like Danceman describes, too many people still think and therefore nothing will change.

Here again for info:
https://www.coffee-perfect.de/kaffeewissen/...en-siegeln.html

https://www.coffee-perfect.de/kaffeewissen/...en-siegeln.html


It would also be worth mentioning, however, that Fair Trade must contain at least 6% in words of 6% Fair Trade coffee. What the industry makes of it is easy to imagine.

MfG Paul

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QUOTE (MilaMochachino @ Thursday, April 26, 2018)April 2018, 12:10pm)

.... When I buy food that is imported from other countries, I can at least make sure that it does not have too bad an impact on the environment and all people in the chain.. When it comes to coffee and chocolate, you very often come across the "Fairtrade Seal", which provides better social conditions, no exploitative child labour, prohibits the use of some chemicals and is intended to promote sustainable cultivation. Of course there is a lot of criticism about this seal (sovereignty of interpretation is contested) but generally there is nothing wrong with it. There is also the stricter GEPA fair+ seal, which you don't find so often in the shop. ...

Basically it's right to choose fair-trade food, at least where food has to be imported.

But I wouldn't put as much into Fairtrade, because as you already wrote, it attracts a lot of criticism and not everything is as fair as they want you to believe.

That's why I prefer coffee from a supplier who buys the coffee directly from the farmer outside of these Fairtrade / Gepa organisations and pays him well, even better from Fairtrade and makes it transparent.

The whole organisations cost money and in the end that depends on the farmers' earnings. Gepa is even the better choice, but unfortunately you rarely find it.

But as always, the taste decides and I didn't like the last Fairtrade coffee I tried at all.

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