EQ.9 - Brewing group always heavily soiled

@Thanks to
the questioner
and the super answer! with
me it looks just as out and mouldy on top of that... even though
they remove and clean it every
week
...

Since I already

have

experience in disassembling, exchanging

and cleaning

with Der Orchestro von Krups

,

I will do the same here and now

...
However, previous experiences after 9500 covers are such that we are satisfied, only had a defect in the pressure hose (strongly kinked) during the warranty period, immediately got a new brewing unit, the old one is still there ... if I knew where
to
get such a black hose, I would have a replacement brewing unit
:-)

The new one runs now for 4 years without any problems, but the hose is quite soft at the kink.

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QUOTE (B.Hüsken @ Friday, 21 December 2018, 11:13 a.m.)

QUOTE (data68 @ Thursday, 14 December 2017, 16:24 hrs) Hello guys, the cleaning of the EQ.9 is already solved well in total . Thomas Hello I also have the problem with the brewing unit of the Simens eq9 ............and the easiest thing to do is to change the Orange Simmerin, and grease it with silicone grease.

I have such a set there, there is also a small black ring with it, does anyone know where it can be changed?

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Oh, came across a similar thread with more interesting aspects/solutions;

https://www.kaffeevollautomaten.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=38851t=60:rolleyes:

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Hi, gentlemen! The error also comes up when the black thick tube on the brewing unit goes in wrong direction (down instead of up) when the unit is in position "ready to receive the grind coffee from above". The tube does not allow to reach the magnet installed inside the camera (you can easily locate it using another magnet) to the sensor (contactor) located inside the body of the machine. To test it insert the brewing unit inside the machine, do not lock it with red ring and move it manually to the "ready to receive" position.

And, yes, I do not like at all this tube which "brakes" in the place where it bends mostly.

QUOTE (Chatakaffee @ March 05, 2018 02:38 pm)

Hello EQ9 owner My EQ9 caused me after about one year the same problems. Strong soiling, frequent message Clean brewing unit, sticking brewing unit, watery pomace etc. Many tips from the known forums unfortunately brought no improvement. Grinding degree fine to roughly tried, no success. Recently I read that a greasing of the spindle promises improvement. I suspect that the effort required to drive the brewing unit, via the flowing current of the motor, is evaluated once to detect the end of pressing and to the second whether the brewing unit is contaminated, so sluggish. The bearings of the spindle cannot be greased so easily. The lower part, spindle bearing, can be removed. It is held by three pins. If you look at the brewing unit from below, you can see a rectangle attached to one side. If you carefully lift the movable side with a screwdriver, you can turn the part a few degrees counterclockwise . Now it's taking off. Please do not bend the release too far, the hook could break off. After a thorough cleaning I have greased the spindle and the bearing surfaces with food silicone. I let silicone spray of a discounter run into the upper storage with the enclosed tube. These parts do not come into contact with the brewed coffee, so I am not afraid of health and taste impairments. After assembling in reverse order I was anxious about the result. There is no more message cleaning the brewing unit. Of course, I'll clean them anyway. It no longer jams when removed. Probably it will now always be moved to the correct position. The pomace is firm, regardless of the degree of grinding. The pomace container contains kaum more water. The brewing unit is no longer as dirty as it used to be. Please tell us once whether you have had similar experiences.

Hi,

Thank you so much for the tip, it worked perfectly for us. Let#s just hope we do not have to do this cleaning too often

QUOTE (Guest Oliver @ Friday, 03 January 2020, 11:44 am)

You can order the sealing ring and silicone grease from Amazon. After that it always worked fine for about 3 weeks, then the game started all over again. I'm about to take the turd out of my kitchen and put it through the window onto the street. With this thing you are more occupied with waiting and cleaning than you can drink coffee. For the money you can expect other things, I guess.

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I'm actually about to take the turd out of my kitchen through the window onto the street. With this thing, you're more occupied with waiting and cleaning than you are with drinking coffee.

pure polemic

QUOTE (data68 @ Thursday, December 14, 2017, 3:24 PM)

Hello folks, the cleaning of the EQ.9 is already well solved in total. But what strikes me very negatively is the fact that the brew group is always very dirty. Even just a few pulls are enough to collect everywhere Trester. In the appendix you very a picture, how it looks with me. Is that also the case with you? This can hardly be normal, right? Greetings and thanks Thomas

Hi
,I also had the same problem. Very dirty and the coffee was always watery. I'm not much of a coffee drinker so everything was ok for now.
Last week the hose on the brewing unit always kinked. I changed it.
https://www.
amazon.de/dp/B07MZDSH54/ref=cm_sw_r_u_apa_glt_i_5FWXP3B133SNBA94K72V?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1Dazu I bought these hose clamps.
https://www.
amazon.de/dp/B0759PDNXL/ref=cm_sw_r_u_apa_glt_i_595HGNYGXG2GBAAZJ81D?psc=1Danach I read here that you have to lubricate the spindle and replace the seal



.




Then I bought the set here.
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B084JSGX45/ref=cm_sw_r_u_apa_glt_i_ZPDEKZZ6DG1J704KZHAG?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 and grease spray for the places where I do not come so well to it.
https://www.
amazon.de/dp/B008XF1KJO/ref=cm_sw_r_u_apa_glt_i_3A8N638Z2F5XF12B1N17?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1Kaffeemaschine opened, hose changed and clamped, everything lubricated and behold, it all works
.

At the very beginning I had always had very wet coffee grounds. Now it is very firm and dry. Everything is wonderful. I also no longer have a watery aftershock. Now I can use the machine 100%.

Does anyone have any idea why after cleaning all of a sudden the coating is so broken?

What'd you use on it? Brake cleaner?

QUOTE (Guest_Peter @ Wednesday, 20 November 2019, 18:50)

Hey ,Where is the best place to order the gasket plus silicone grease? Lg

At Amazon

This answer does not help much
, the link to it has BALKES10 under
"this set...." reingestellt here.

Such sets are now also available in many markets (MM, SATURN...) where fully automatic machines are sold.

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Hello Forum,

I had with my EQ.9 also always wet Trester.
The remedy is in most cases totally simple.
1. simply remove the orange O-RIng and clean
.
Also the recess where the O-ring sits on it must be cleaned. If necessary, lubricate a little with Butaris. Butaris is used for cooking and is therefore harmless. I would not take butter, that coagulates with the time. Now everything should actually work.

If the marc is still mushy now, it will be a bit more elaborate. Here's the solution.
2a. Remove the brewing unit and dismantle it from below. This has been super described here on the forum. See the post by Chatakaffee Monday, March 05, 2018 at 1:38 pm....
2b. At the bottom of the spindle you can see the two plastic arms that are responsible for the position. Unfortunately, the plastic arms are a bit too short and therefore the preload is too much when turning the spindle. I solved this problem by simply extending the slot of the plastic arms by drilling a 3mm hole at the end of the slot.
Sorry, I can't post a photo here. No idea how to do this. Maybe someone here can give a hint, then I post the photo later.


Attention, the guarantee if available is void with it. But my experience has shown that this solution works. I have a good marc for several weeks. If it becomes again somewhat muddy over time, simply as described above 1. remove the O-ring and clean.

I hope I could help you.

Hello dear ones,

We bought the machine in the summer of 2020. Already 3 months later the first repair. Unsre brewing unit looked like sau.alles vermacht totally disgusting. Painting work is fine with us to mid set. But the pads come out of the machine mostly compact and dry. When the came back from the repair was attached to the brewing unit a new clamp, I know si exactly because of previous pictures and because this now scratches the housing.

We also have serious problems with the milk intake that keeps pulling air and you have to cancel the process over and over again. Also this would be "fixed" at the 1 repair, but was still present and because at the Calc n Clean then the machine showed a fault or and no longer worked it went scarce 4 months later again to the repair.

My machine does not show that the brewing unit needs to be cleaned, I do that by myself. Annoying that I have to do that again every week and we drink rather less coffee so 2 to 3 cups a day. With such an expensive machine you would think that this problem is solved a little differently. Have the service again Angeschrieben and only get a PDF where it says it is not the problem of the machine. Oh no, from whom else?!?!

Is it perhaps because I have to stop the machine because of the milk intake and therefore no real "coffee" can be made? Does anyone else have this problem? So with the milk and also the brewing unit?

My machine does not indicate that the brewing unit needs cleaning, ...........es is not the problem of the machine. Oh no, by whom else?!?!

Sorry
When I read something like this, my hair stands on endThe
machine indicates when it should be cleaned - but with the cleaning tablet is only the brewing unit inside freed from coffee oils.

The exterior cleaning should be done regularly for the sake of their own health (no mold!),
many do it every night, 1x weekly should be, 1x monthly grease also, if you want to have long pleasure
.

Be glad that you can remove the unit for cleaning, Krups/JURA owners can not.

How was it with you before the purchase?
Oh well, just throw the coffee filter/pad in the trash, then go back to it.
Me tastes the coffee from the Siemens but much better, and that for 14500 cups, then I or my wife but gladly accept a few inconveniences, and that since 1999, when I bought the first Krups, which must be cleaned and maintained cumbersome - and its successor with digital display still works today! Thanks to such forums, like this.

Have unfortunately exactly the same problem with muddy pomace have already tried everything.
Are there any tips?

Greetings Uwe