Decalcifying is important !!!

Hello,
I once opened my dripstone cave for you

If you wait with the decalcifying until no more coffee comes, the boiler could look like mine.

Also does not wait.
Lieber once more decalcify.

Greeting Rene

QUOTE (pc17 @ Friday, December 19, 2008, pc17 @ 19:44 pm)December 2008, 15:44pm)

Hello,...So don't wait. Better decalcify once more. Greeting Rene

... you shouldn't remove the patina in teapots, it gives the tea that certain extra

Hello Rene,

I have pinned the topic once, so that the filter users finally understand it.

My coffee machine was always leaking after decalcifying until the lime sealed it again. Until again the brewing lasted for hours and I decalcified again and it was again leaky and it again tbc.

;-)

Decalcifiers are a damn aggressive mixture, but without it probably also does not work.

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Kaffee?

Let's put it this way: You simply waited too long for the lime to corrode the thermoblock in places such as connections etc.. Because if the decalcifier had been decalcified regularly according to regulations, the thermoblock would not have leaked immediately.
The decalcifiers are not that damn aggressive!

Greß
Gregor

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until the lime has eroded the thermoblock in places like connections etc.

That may be well. But with normal machines (what I wrote about were filter machines) there aren't really any instructions for decalcifying, are there? I have to admit, I never looked at the instructions.

If the pipes are built properly, however, lime does not cause any problems. I know about my pipes, which are installed in the house, there is still nothing broken after fifty years. ;-) And when a piece had to be sawn out for a branch, the pipe looked like new from the inside under the lime layer, which was very thin, against my and the installer's expectations of the water hardness on site (> 20).

But well, that's another topic.

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Kaffee?

Ok that by "coffee machine" you mean a filter squeezer you could also have written, because a VA is also a coffee machine and that's what this thread was about.

As far as the pipes are concerned: The plastic won't leak, but the thermoblocks of aluminum in VAs and the heaters in filter machines will.....and that your house pipes aren't corroded by the lime: They are hardly made of aluminium, or?


Greetings
Gregor

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Yeah, I knew we'd pass it by, so I mentioned it again. Was inspired in the first place by the contribution of Hisholy ... Filtueruser, I remembered my old filter coffee machine.

And as far as the pipes are concerned, of course they are not made of aluminum, even. So you could also use other materials that are more stable - but then of course more expensive and heavier. That's what I was saying.

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Kaffee?

The cables are not made of aluminium anyway, but of plastic, Teflon or silicone. And aluminium thermoblocks are a thing of the past with new VAs. Nevertheless, one must decalcify regularly, because the pipes in the modern thermoblocks and also the hoses do not have a large diameter. Then something will clog up over time.

Greetings
Gregor

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And aluminium thermoblocks are a thing of the past with new VAs anyway

What are they now?

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Kaffee?

For fully automatic machines either completely made of stainless steel (e.g. Jura and identical in construction), or the waterways in the form of stainless steel tubes poured into the aluminium block (e.g. DeLonghi and identical in construction).
Brass, copper and, more recently, stainless steel have been used for ages for good screen support machines, boilers and pipes. However, this does not apply to screen carrier machines from Krups, Jura and similar too. There are also mostly thermoblocks to be found, still made of aluminium.

Gruß
Gregor

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Ah, so here you go to more noble too. Beautiful, even if the products become more expensive as a result. But they (hopefully) last longer.

In my Jura screen carrier the water somehow ran out to the side, didn't understand why at first, but then I saw the tiny hairline crack in the aluminium part where the piston is turned in. But now, stop here, it's all about lime.

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Kaffee?

How often should you decalcify? Is there any healthy information you can follow?

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You have to set the degree of hardness or the hardness range depending on the VA and you will then be prompted by the machine in time.
But since you have not told us which VA you use and whether you still use a water filter, nobody can give you concrete tips.

Greetings
Gregor

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Oh, ok, here's the missing info:

Having a Melitta Caffeo Bistro + Claris water filter.

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