ESAM 6600 grinds too short
Posted by: caffeeklatsch April 07, 2014 07:20 pm
Hello,
someone has a hint for me why the grinder grinds only 5 sec?
Egal how light or strong the coffee is set and what cup size, it is ground too little. Grape marc just 1cm thick and that with every setting. Fine and coarse adjustment at the grinder works. Pomace also not muddy but coffee just too thin. The grinder is only 1.5 years old. Machine 5. resetting the machine did not help either.
Many thanks for your help in advance
Posted by: looser April 07, 2014 08:33 pm
Beans out, 4 x coffee brewing start, ignore warning message, beans in again. Within the next 10 references this should be correct again.
Open and clean the grinder. Especially the conveyor wheel under the lower grinding stone. I'm sure that's a bit of a problem.
Posted by: caffeeklatsch April 07, 2014 09:15 pm
Thanks for the quick answer. I'll try and let you know.
Posted by: caffeeklatsch April 08, 2014 07:49 am
So I had a few times ground without beans, but an error message like I know it from the 5500 didn't come up ("fill bean container" or something like that). It continued to brew normally.
Only with clear water. Is that normal with the ESAM 6600???
As there was no time to try beans again this morning, I will do it this afternoon.
But to be honest, I can't quite believe in the success yet, because it worked normally with the grinding quantity and then from one day to the next not anymore. That is to say, the grinder had already learnt its trade.
Can it also be the power or control circuit board????
Posted by: looser April 08, 2014 08:56 am
That would be the first machine that would bring clear water.
The MW constantly learns itself. So if little powder is reported, the powder quantity increases again.
Provided the impeller is clean and delivers enough.
Posted by: caffeeklatsch April 08, 2014 12:14 pm
But it is precisely this error message that too little powder or coffee ends up in the brewing group that is not issued. Therefore my question is whether it could also be due to the electronics.
But I will still disassemble and clean the grinder this afternoon.
Posted by: looser April 08, 2014 06:40 pm
Certainly it could also be due to the electronics, but I haven't had it yet.
Posted by: caffeeklatsch April 08, 2014 07:35 pm
I just brewed 2 cups of coffee with filled beans and immediately the grinding time was twice as long.
looser was right. Let the grinder run empty several times and then again with beans and the grinder learns a new lesson.
Many thanks. Problem solved 
Posted by: Klingel121 February 03, 2018 03:17 pm
Hello Losser, super tip and description!
>I have already done a big renewal on my ESAM 6600 and was now, with this appearance with the coffee powder too small, really helpless or would have definitely relied on the electronics. Brewing without coffee has brought it.
Now the coffee tastes good again!
Thanks and really good forum.
Greeting bell 121
Posted by: Gast_Andre January 27, 2019 09:44 pm
The emptying thing worked. I just wonder how the machine measures that...
But ok. The coffee tastes good again and is not so thin anymore...
Thanks for the tip
Posted by: Gast_Martin July 28, 2019 04:20 pm
Same problem with thin coffee.
But unfortunately my machine grinds without beans only 5 seconds, I have already done this 10 times. At 1 cup cover.
Is that the circuit board broken?
It's these obstructions:
Power board 5213213691
Posted by: KP February 01, 2020 06:47 pm
| QUOTE (looser @ Monday, April 07, 2014, 20:33) |
| Beans out, start 4 x coffee delivery, ignore warning message, beans back in. Within the next 10 references this should be true again. Open and clean the grinding mechanism. Especially the conveyor wheel under the lower grinding stone. It's definitely a little rough. |
Hey, loser, that's a great tip. With my ESAM 6600 the grinding time was only 4 seconds! even with the strongest setting it was less than 6 seconds. i then let the machine grind "empty" 5 times and got back to 8:20 seconds. thank you very much!
this is a great forum -
Posted by: Vitali March 25, 2020 08:59 pm
Hello
,I have the problem that the coffee from my ESAM 6600 is quite thin.
Already exchanged the thermoblock, the grinder and the reedplate, but still the coffee is very thin, the grinding time is about 5 seconds, the pomace is 0.6 cm thick.
Reset already done, run the grinder 10 times. Nothing helped.
If someone has another tip for me, I would be very grateful.
Posted by: Gast_Heiko August 20, 2020 04:26 pm
Hi folksHad
exactly the same problem with my Esam 6600... so I took the good piece apart... cleaned the grinder and..... no improvement! Until I read here the grinder runs without beans. super tip ....... everything runs again as it should be
thanks Heiko
Posted by: Gast_Peter July 03, 2021 08:25 am
I have now done 2x, run empty a few times, then enough for max. 3 cups, then it starts all over again. Is it still worth a repair? After all, already more than 20000 covers, the thing can not last forever ... I would be hard to part with, the coffee was always good. Does anyone have a suggestion? Thanks already! Greetings
Posted by: Gast_Tony January 18, 2023 02:03 am
| QUOTE (looser @ April 07, 2014 08:33 pm) |
| Beans out, 4 x coffee brewing start, ignore warning message, beans in again. Within the next 10 references this should be correct again. Open and clean the grinder. Especially the conveyor wheel under the lower grinding stone. I'm sure that's a bit of a problem. |
Thanks so much. My Delonghi had been making weak coffee for a month, but just running it empty of beans a four or five times as you suggested has now increased the time for grinding from 2 secs to 8 secs for double cups. Back to good strength coffee now. cheers Tony
Posted by: Esam4200user May 28, 2023 10:27 pm
| QUOTE (looser @ April 07, 2014 07:33 pm) |
| Beans out, 4 x coffee brewing start, ignore warning message, beans in again. Within the next 10 references this should be correct again. Open and clean the grinder. Especially the conveyor wheel under the lower grinding stone. I'm sure that's a bit of a problem. |
Thank you Looser.
I tried this on my Delonghi Magnifica esam 4200 and it worked.
The grinding time for a single dose was 2 seconds and the grinding time for a double dose was 2.5 seconds.
Emptied the hopper and rand the double dose five times with the empty hopper and ignored all the lights and the grinder tine increased from 2.5 seconds to nearly 5 seconds. Now the coffee is strong and as it was when the machine was new
Also the coffee puck is back to normal as before it was just a sludge and not a proper puck after brewing the coffee.
Again, thank you soo much for this trick.
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