EQ.9 - Brewing group always heavily soiled

Hello guys,

The cleaning of the EQ.9 is already well solved in sum. But what strikes me as very negative is the fact that the brewing group is always very dirty. Just a few references are enough for pomace to accumulate everywhere.

In the appendix you see a picture of what it looks like in my case.

Is that the case with you too? This can hardly be normal, or?

greeting and thank you
Thomas

Hello.

I can give you a hunch. It looks as if the grinding degree is set too roughly and therefore the tabs do not hold together and the pomace is quite wet. Normally the grind is set so that you have fairly compact, dry tabs.

This can naturally be different from coffee to coffee type.

Please don't hit me if it's not so

Roland salute

QUOTE (silverjack @ Saturday, January 13, 2018, 19:10 hrs)

Hello. I can make a suspicion.  It looks like the grind is set too rough and so the tabs don't hold together and the marc is pretty wet. Normally the grind is set so that you have fairly compact, dry tabs. This can vary from coffee to coffee type. Please don't hit me if it isn't like this Greeting Roland

In Siemens vending machines the marc isn't firm. It is normal that the pomace is quite wet
and not a firm pad.

So much for that, this is from my Siemens eq.9

Greeting Roland

So the grinding degree is very finely adjusted, that's not the reason.
Machine will be repaired tomorrow. I will report...

So, then I want to report!
The machine went to Siemens and came back after a week.
Result: everything as it should be and a written explanation why dirty and muddy is normal.

The machine completely cleaned at Siemens put back into operation, after three references came the message "Clean brewing group". Read and done, the next day the same game again.

Then I called Siemens very angrily and met an understanding employee. They simply sent me a new brew group.

When I unpacked it, I thought it would look slightly different, but this is probably a newer revision. And lo and behold, now the pomace is much firmer and even after 10 references the brewing group is still clean!

As such people: if you have a problem as described by me, don't let it get rid of you. Insists on the exchange of the brewing group!

Gruß
Thomas

Hello EQ9 owner

My EQ9 caused me after about one year the same problems.
Strong soiling, frequent message Clean brewing unit, sticking brewing unit,
watery pomace etc.
Many tips from the known forums unfortunately brought no improvement.
Grinding degree fine to roughly tried, no success.

Recently I read that a greasing of the spindle promises improvement.
I suspect that the effort required to drive the brewing unit, via the flowing
current of the motor, is evaluated once to detect the end of pressing
and to the second whether the brewing unit is contaminated, so sluggish.

The bearings of the spindle cannot be greased so easily. The lower part, spindle bearing,
can be removed. It is held by three pins. If you look at the brewing unit from
below, you can see a rectangle attached to one side. If you carefully lift the movable
side with a screwdriver, you can turn the part a few degrees counterclockwise
. Now it's taking off. Please do not bend the release too far,
the hook could break off.

After a thorough cleaning I have greased the spindle and the bearing surfaces
with food silicone. I let silicone spray of a discounter run into the upper storage with
the enclosed tube. These parts do not come into contact with the brewed
coffee, so I am not afraid of health and
taste impairments.

After assembling in reverse order I was anxious about the result.

There is no more message cleaning the brewing unit. Of course, I'll clean them anyway.
It no longer jams when removed. Probably it will now always be moved to the correct
position. The pomace is firm, regardless of the degree of grinding. The pomace container contains
kaum more water. The brewing unit is no longer as dirty as it used to be.

Please tell us once whether you have had similar experiences.

Hello,
the recommendation of Chatakaffee is super and with a little tact easy to carry out. Can anyone who does not have 2 left hands and can open a blister pack without injuring himself. ;-)
Machine runs quieter afterwards, "more effortlessly", the pomace pads are nice and dry and there is no more soup in the collection container. Also the machine does not get dirty so much anymore!

>My additional recommendations:
Let dry well before lubricating! If you wrap all water- or coffee-bearing parts of the brewing unit properly with transparent film/kitchen foil, you can also use silicone spray to lubricate all joints or pivot points. Please spray very carefully and sparingly and only where it belongs, i.e. where something is moving! The stuff is very rich and very creepable. Less is more! Move all moving parts 2-3 times by hand without any effort (don't worry, nothing will break) and bring them back to their original position. Before removing the film again, allow it to dry well (solvent evaporates).

I repeat this relatively regularly (after every 6-10th brew group cleaning, as it suits the time). Now change the red sealing ring once a year (a matter of 2 minutes without any tools; costs approx. 3€ on the Internet, 38 mm inner diameter, 4 mm thick) and treat it lightly with silicone grease after each cleaning. Then the machine always runs perfectly...

Gruß
Michael

QUOTE (data68 @ Thursday, December 14, 2017) December 2017, 16:24 pm)

Hello people, The purification of EQ.9 is already well solved in sum. But what strikes me as very negative is the fact that the brewing group is always very dirty. Just a few references are enough for pomace to accumulate everywhere. In the appendix you see a picture of what it looks like in my case. Is that the case with you too? This can hardly be normal, or? Greß und danke Thomas

Hello I also have the problem with the Simens eq9 brewing unit. Always after a couple of coffee trains, came the message brewing unit clean.have me informed, and the easiest thing you can do is change the orange Simmerin, and grease with silicone grease.I have ordered from Amazon simmering and installed. And that's about a week master, be the installer. Be the one to whom the notice brewing unit clean no longer started.

I followed the tip on Chatakaffee. With the removal of the bottom cover one comes well to the spindle and can grease it.
Ebenso I have greased up the spindle with silicone oil.

The message - Clean brewing unit, which already appeared every time after replacement, was gone and there was coffee again.

Now I am curious how long that will go well

QUOTE (Chatakaffee @ Monday, 05. March 2018, 14:38 Uhr)

Hello EQ9 owner My EQ9 caused me the same problems after about a year. Heavy soiling, frequent message Clean brewing unit, jammed brewing unit, watery pomace etc. Many tips from the well-known forums unfortunately did not bring any improvement. Grinding degree tried out fine to coarse, no success. Recently I read that a greasy spindle promises improvement. I suspect that the power input of the brewing unit's drive, via the flowing current of the motor, is evaluated, firstly to detect the end of pressing and secondly to determine whether the brewing unit is dirty, i.e. sluggish. The bearings of the spindle cannot be greased so easily. The lower part, the spindle bearing, can be removed. It is held by three pins. If you look at the brewing unit from below, you can see a rectangle attached to one side. If you carefully lift the movable side with a screwdriver, you can turn the part a few degrees counterclockwise. Now it's taking off. Please do not bend the release too far, the hook could break off. After a thorough cleaning I greased the spindle and the bearing surfaces with food silicone. I let silicone spray of a discounter run into the upper camp with the enclosed tube. These parts do not come into contact with the brewed coffee, so I am not afraid of health and taste impairments. After the assembly in reverse order I was curious about the result. There is no more message to clean the brewing unit. Of course, I'll clean them anyway. It doesn't jam when you take it out anymore. Probably she will always be driven into the right position now . The pomace is firm, regardless of the degree of grinding. The pomace container contains hardly any water. The brewing unit is no longer as dirty as it used to be. Please tell us if you have had similar experiences.

It is easier to turn the spindle manually upwards after removing the Be by reaching into the opening at the bottom and turning it. You don't have to dismantle or remove anything.

QUOTE (silverjack @ Saturday, January 13, 2018, 20:10)

Hello. I can make a suspicion. It looks as if the grinding degree is set too roughly and therefore the tabs do not hold together and the pomace is quite wet. Normally the grind is set so that you have fairly compact, dry tabs. Of course, this can vary from coffee to coffee type. Please don't hit me if you don't. Greeting Roland

With me is also so a sauerei, that is a production mistake. otherwise it would not have been sold so favorably.

Hello
, I can confirm what div have written here. Also after approx. one year clean brewing unit once a week
, watery marc etc.

So after thorough cleaning I changed the brewing stamp seal, greased it and also greased the spindle a bit. I have also

fine-tuned the

grinding degree by one or two

steps. Result -
Brewing group
no longer hooks -

Pomace

dry -

Coffee tastes

betterI

will change the seal once in the future, next time

order

me a three-pack directly

.

VG

Hey
, where's the best place to order the gasket plus silicone grease
?

Lg

The sealing ring and silicone grease can be ordered from Amazon. With me it worked afterwards always so 3 weeks again smoothly, then the game started right from the beginning.

I'm actually about to take the turd out of my kitchen through the window onto the street. With this thing you are more occupied with waiting and cleaning than you can drink coffee.

For the money you can expect other things, I guess.