Siemens EQ.9 "Clean brewing unit" very often

Posted by: Didi_Nbg August 02, 2017 09:38 am

Good morning,

I recently had a problem with our Siemens EQ.9 s500:

After a few coffee purchases (max. half water tank empty) the message "Clean brewing unit" appears.
Then of course I do the same. And after a short time the problem comes again.

I have the feeling that moving the brewing unit in operation also sounds different than if it is more difficult.
The unit in the brewing chamber also contained coffee during cleaning, approx. 1 cm high (quite loose).

I also notice that the pressed coffee residues in the marc container are pressed relatively loose. By the way, the problem started after I used the rest of the ground coffee from my vacation in the machine via the powder compartment. Since the beans were empty anyway, I had no beans in the system and that worked perfectly. Now I have noticed that I should have switched according to the instructions about the "bean button". Damn - I hadn't read that!
That was a long time ago and I had max. 10 coffees. Since then I've been using beans again.

I suspect the brewing unit itself was faulty. Can they be rinsed out other than over the tap, cleaned and serviced in any other way? Grease anything with silicone grease? Or what can I do?

Many thanks for the help!
Didi

Posted by: kaffeechris August 02, 2017 10:13 pm

Hello, the brewing unit really clean the bottom, side, top, side, everywhere with 60°C hot water. Never put it in the dishwasher, ever;!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!&#br>With the help of a toothbrush or small brush, also clean the corners.
Ring off, also the covers, are easily clipped.
O-Ring with little silicone grease coat, with finger.
Brew unit test, should now pull together easily, in addition, red slider on the side pull back.

MfG Chris

Posted by: Didi_Nbg August 03, 2017 12:24 pm

Hi Chris,
thanks for the quick response.

I suspect you mean the brewing unit e.g. an EQ.6 or similar.
The EQ.9 has another brewing unit. I don't have any covers on it and also no red slider on the side.

I cleaned them thoroughly again. You can actually get there anywhere.
I cleaned the O-ring and greased it with silicone grease.

I'll see if it worked and how much coffee I can let out now. I'll get back to you and report.
Didi

Posted by: HWS August 04, 2017 09:25 am

Good morning,

I suppose the machine isn't old yet. With some of my EQ 5 s I got this message. Then it helped to grease the BE drive motor or its bearing again so that it rotates easily enough. If it draws too much current, the electronics will acknowledge this with this message. That'll do some work, though. But it could also be the BE itself.

HWS

Posted by: Didi_Nbg August 04, 2017 01:48 pm

Shit, after half a water tank the message comes back now.

It has only 128 coffee purchases and 360 milk drinks purchases on it. Used to buy them. The previous owner had used it only very little! Optically it is still 1A!
Since the date of purchase was only in 02.2016, I still have warranty on it. I got the receipt.

Posted by: kaffeechris August 05, 2017 08:35 am

Then use the warranty.

MfG Chris

Posted by: Guest September 20, 2017 09:03 pm

Have the same problem !
Has anyone else new tips ?

Posted by: HWS September 20, 2017 10:59 pm

The EQ 9 are not very old yet. Your machine will also be under warranty. These devices are still too <young>, for a good error analysis. EQ 7, for example, are very well known. But EQ 6 or EQ 9, there is still too little experience.

HWS

Posted by: BenB October 03, 2017 10:17 pm

We have had EQ9 since the beginning of the year. After about half a year it also started to clean with brewing group. The nice thing is that when the message comes the red lever of the brewing group is blocked and you don't get the brewing group out. In order to be able to remove the brewing group, you must remove the side flap when the message appears. After a few seconds reinstate. You can then hear how the motor turns the brewing group. Then immediately remove the flap again. The lever can now be easily moved and the brewing group removed.

To prevent the message from coming back, simply grease the spindle of the brewing group (the large thread). Had some silicone grease left from the Saeco care set. And luckily, the news hasn't come back since.

Posted by: Didi_Nbg October 10, 2017 02:03 pm

Thanks for the tip with the greasing. This was the first thing I did because I knew it from the previous machine.

Now I wanted to take photos for the service technician a few weeks ago and then the mistake didn't happen anymore! I let myself out (and drank) one espresso after the other in the evening. But the mistake didn't come anymore. After the 10th espresso I stopped! Unfortunately the evening was late! I couldn't fall asleep for a long time!

Now the error has not occurred for a long time. I'll report back when there's something happening.

Posted by: Gast_Coffee November 02, 2017 06:50 pm

Super the tip with greasing the spindle worked, thank you

Posted by: Gast_Alex January 30, 2018 06:45 pm

Hello,

also have the problem of BE jamming. Now I wanted to grease the spindle. I have noticed that you can only get to a small area of the plunger where, in my opinion, the fat cannot spread. Where exactly did you put the fat?

Thank you

Posted by: Guest February 09, 2018 06:01 pm

our one has the metal bracket that is supposed to wipe off the coffee residues and so we get the message

Posted by: HWS February 10, 2018 12:09 pm

The metal bracket can be bent easily.

HWS

Posted by: Guest February 27, 2018 10:46 am

About a year after I purchased my EQ9 S300 the problems with the brewing unit started.
Strong contamination, wet and soft pomace, clamps on removal etc.
In this forum I read that a grease on the threaded spindle is supposed to help.
Only how do I get the bearings greased up and down.
Silicone spray from a discounter was the solution. With the enclosed tube I was able to lubricate the bearings at the top and bottom. Since these parts do not come into contact with coffee and the tube makes targeted oiling possible, I have no fear of impairment.
Result : The brewing unit does not often report that it wants to be cleaned. The coffee machine probably evaluates the sluggishness in order to recognize that it wants to be cleaned.
The pomace is also not as moist as before.
We wait and see how long the result will last.

Posted by: bibibj March 03, 2018 06:27 pm

Hello, we also have a problem with the BE. Frequent requests for cleaning we have always patiently done! Now the request for the cleaning program. This was started as usual....Until a loud bang!! We opened the device carefully. Then the shock!!! The BE is broken in the upper part. As if the spindle had overshot the target... !?
Does anyone have an explanation for this???

Posted by: Gast_Patrick March 18, 2018 12:28 pm

Hi,
the loud bang just happened to us.
My theory is this:
The cleaning tablet is difficult to compress because of its hardness, but the coffee machine tries. That goes on until the motor runs to stop.
Apparently the plastics of the BE are not stable enough and become brittle over time. That leads then to the fact that it bursts the Be upwards because the power must go somewhere.

Had bought the device over classified advertisements with a BSH employee, must now times look to whom I must turn there regarding warranty processing....
Document is from 19.07.2016 am thus still in the warranty period....

Posted by: Guest March 20, 2018 06:20 pm

If I already had, complain within warranty and you get a new brewing unit sent...
send pictures, as well as copy receipt and machine number...

address in the Internet...

Posted by: Kaffeepoint March 20, 2018 11:45 pm

Posted by: srslykev March 22, 2018 01:02 pm

Posted by: Johnwin May 20, 2018 03:16 pm

Hello,
If I have problems with the brewing unit.

Your my tip for you: When the message comes, open the side flap and simply spray the spindle (the large thread) of the brewing group with silicone spray, close the side flap.
To prevent the message from coming back, clean thoroughly and grease with silicone grease or simply spray the spindle of the brewing group with silicone spray from time to time.
I'm always fine and I haven't had any problems with the brewing unit since then.

Posted by: Guest August 04, 2018 10:37 am

Our son and we have the EQ 9th S300. Since purchase we send every 6 months after consultation with a Siemens technician the machine for repair, both our son and we. Now the warranty expires and then we will see what comes to us. According to the technician, the message Clean brewing unit must not come at all, it indicates a general error. The brewing unit is not dirty either. In our opinion there is a construction fault.


.

Posted by: BenB August 11, 2018 01:42 pm

Why the expense of sending the machine in for repair every six months?
You really only have to grease the spindle "ONE" time" with silicone grease. The message did not come now since the first greasing one year ago no more with me.

Then Siemens really did itself a favor to save the 5 cent for the silicone grease.

Posted by: dersupergrobi August 16, 2018 11:20 am

Hello together,

I dig this up again, because I have the same problem.
Since I have been waiting for my Juras myself in the past, removing the brewing unit and greasing it is a cinch.

But what about the muddy coffee powder residues?
For presentations in markets these are always firm, dry
disks, as mentioned in the origin here is that with the EQ9
more a porridge.

I have phoned Siemens - they want the machine (because of the heaviness) for 10-14 working days.
Lubricating is easy - but is there a connection with the coffee leftovers?

Thanks...

Frank

Posted by: HWS October 24, 2018 10:52 am

If the BG is too heavy, then the engine is quite heavy. He's drawing more power because of it. The electronics memorizes that & issues the mentioned message.

HWS

Posted by: Peter14 November 07, 2018 09:41 pm

This error "Clean brew group" seems to be systemic. My 2-month-old S500 also started it. An intermittent error! Today the Maschie was sent back to Service. I'm looking forward to a permanent solution.

Posted by: Gast_Gast November 09, 2018 09:46 am

As far as I know the old brewing groups will be mashed and dman gets a new one, they don't have these problems...Maybe you notice that after sending in another brewing unit is inside.....

Posted by: Gast_Frank December 26, 2018 11:10 am

Hello, our EQ9S500 also has this error several times. Twice it was sent in, twice the BE was exchanged. Now the warranty has expired and this morning the error came again. For me, the machine has a design flaw. I'll follow the lubrication tips and hope it helps.

Posted by: Flenskaffeetrinker January 11, 2019 11:48 pm

I've read all the articles and I'm very scared about some advice. Also my brewing unit muckt after 2 years. First, plastic ages and second, the problem is in the plastic thread. In the course of time, coffee residues have accumulated here and become firm. On the part of SIEMENS there seems to be no remedy, except to buy a new brewing unit!
To get into the inner workings of this thread is almost hopeless and also Siemens offers no help for this.

Thus a very, very bad service from Siemens.!

Pity, now that I have my third fully automatic coffee machine, now EQ.9, from Siemens.

Posted by: Gast_Andrea January 16, 2019 10:06 am

Posted by: Gast_Jutta March 12, 2019 08:38 pm

Thanks for the help .l did not get out of the cleaning program because the error message always occurred before cleaning.
With siliconespay on the spring
and switch off again 3 times
and restart again it finally went on at the 3 tem times. so the Spay must first work.

Posted by: Gast_Kaffeetrinker April 13, 2019 10:43 pm

Posted by: Gast_Kaffeetrinker April 14, 2019 06:31 am

Posted by: BlackBetty April 29, 2019 08:32 pm

Machine bought at the end of 05/2018. After the first use, the machine did not make any more milk foam on the 2nd day. 1: 1 exchange in the shop. Since September the message "Clean brewing unit" has been displayed again and again. In spite of cleaning and using silicone grease, the whole thing has increased so much that the machine has brought the error message every time it is switched on and off. Customer service called, machine picked up and after not even a week back. Replacement of the brewing unit as "mechanically defective".
Very annoying with a machine in the price range.

Posted by: itsab1989 May 08, 2019 02:03 am

Same with me. First had an EQ9 S700. At first everything was top and suddenly the mistake with the brewing unit occurred more and more frequently. Complained to the dealer, sent in, error persisted and machine had afterwards after each sending in more and more defects at the housing and indicated still further strange errors (I should fill water without carbonic acid). Then I got the current value refunded, which I actually already felt as cheekiness, would have rather had a functioning device.
But because I liked the EQ9 in general, I gave Siemens another chance and bought a S900. After half a year same problem. This time, Siemens Customer Service will provide you with a new brewing unit very easily. She left, too. However, two days ago the error occurred again and
has become more frequent
ever since
.

At a price like this, I just expect nothing like this to happen. I also find the silicone spray unacceptable. I am really not gifted with such things and have a little hesitation to treat the brewing unit with them. I wouldn't know how and where and would be afraid that the coffee would come into contact with it at the end.

The

last brewing unit, by the way, also had the metal handle jammed as described by another user here, so that the brewing unit

could

no longer move as intended

.

Absolutely flawed design, in my opinion. I'm curious what the customer service will say when the part goes away next week. In any case, it was the last Siemens device. I had already flirted with the Oracle Touch at that time, but unfortunately there was no distribution in Germany yet. Too bad about all the money.

Posted by: Gast_Kaffeetrinker May 10, 2019 11:00 pm

Fully automatic coffee makers with removable brewing units often have problems with this. In most cases, this is due to improper cleaning of the brewing unit and its use. In contrast to the brewing unit used in EQ 7, the brewing unit in EQ 9 is much more robust. When cleaning, you should simply make sure that the thin metal handle is not accidentally bent and thus block the unit. The error message "Clean brewing unit" then appears as a result of the blocking. When using the unit you should put it back in the same position as when you took it out. If the message "Clean brewing unit" appears frequently, the unit can be checked manually for ease of movement by slowly turning the spindle up and back again by hand. So you can quickly find out where it's stuck. The use of [/B]silicone grease[/B] is as far as I know completely harmless, especially as it does not come into contact with the coffee at all. (Provided you lubricate it in the right places)I would not inject silicone oil into the machine!

Posted by: Gast_Kaffeetrinker May 10, 2019 11:20 pm

@itsab 1989
Where and how you must use the silicone grease is described in detail above.
MfG

Posted by: JasonWuerg June 07, 2019 11:18 am

Moin, So my 1 1/2 year old EQ9 S700 now also makes the "clean brew group" mistake. I cleaned the brewing group ( I normally do 1x -2x a week ) and now I also greased it. Error is unfortunately not gone, comes all 10-15 references again. The scraper and the sieve are stuck. If I push everything back into the right position I can remove the group and it runs again. Siemens would like to pick up and repair the machine. I had spoken again to a service person who told me that only a new brew group would not do, a firmware update would also have to be installed
Can anyone confirm that? I don't want to send in the machine because in my opinion the mistake is clearly due to the brewing group
.
What do you think of that?

Posted by: Wörlein August 16, 2019 10:27 pm

https://www.directupload.net/file/d/5546/nmi5ud7a_jpg.htm

Posted by: Wörlein August 17, 2019 12:19 am

Hello together

Posted by: Gast_Chris August 23, 2019 03:30 pm

Hey!
Super horny post. I'm going to try that later. I could observe exactly the same with my brewing group. The hose is slightly bent and if I manually drive the brew group in the removed state, hold it exactly vertically, it hooks at the last moment, before the small cup swings out. I think that here still too much tension on the side of the bent hose works. Maybe it wouldn't be a problem if the hose was 10mm longer. MfG

Posted by: Wörlein August 23, 2019 03:35 pm

I'll keep my fingers crossed for you and please let me know if you were successful. Mine has been running flawlessly ever since...

Posted by: Gast_Chris August 23, 2019 04:01 pm

Yes, in any case I give feedback. I've read so much already. You have to say clearly that you should have some technical understanding with this machine, or brewing group. I think it's too much of a good thing for a layman. You have to think about that in advance. It's really stupid that I only own the Siemens for two days. Bought them used and the seller doesn't answer. Fortunately, there's still a warranty on it. But sending it in is the last resort, I'm really trying everything.

Perhaps as another "troubleshooting", I could bend this metal bracket for the pomace pads down a bit. Let's see.....

Posted by: Gast_Chris August 23, 2019 08:37 pm

It worked! But only when I used the rubber. But that can't be the solution for a high-end coffee machine. I need to call customer service.

Posted by: Wörlein August 25, 2019 03:04 pm

Yoo-hoo, I'm so happy for you. Whether that's the solution or not. Mine has been running flawlessly since then and Siemens sells you at most a new brew group that will start again after a few months. I don't see the rubber as long as the lid is on it and I'm satisfied with it Maybe I'll make a long soft spring instead of the rubber on it but "That" is definitely the cause for the jamming of the brewing unit! thank you for your feedback greetingsWörlein

Posted by: Gast_Chris September 01, 2019 09:08 am

Hello again! So to date I have received no feedback from customer service.
I don't need any rubber right now either. I just turned the hose a little. Now he's got a little more bias again. But I think sooner or later it will leak at the kink
.

I have now put together a repair set for 6€. It consists of a silicone hose and two stainless steel clamps

.

The way it looks, the hose shouldn't be very pressurized. MFG

Posted by: Sequal September 03, 2019 04:37 pm

Moin
, where did you get this hose repair kit? I can't find
anything...
salute

Posted by: Gast_Chris September 05, 2019 05:26 am

Posted by: Wörlein September 05, 2019 10:33 pm

Well, that's a compilation.

Posted by: Harald S. September 11, 2019 03:03 pm

Hello, the problem also occurred with my machine. I took a closer look at the blocked BE because nothing was running anymore. It was the clamp of the black hose (the one with the white line) that got stuck at the back of the machine casing. After turning the clamp, the error did not occur again.

Posted by: Gast_Chris September 13, 2019 06:30 pm

Hello! Today I had a package from the BSH Group outside the door. Surprisingly, there was a new brew group in there. This is slightly changed in the lower area. So the service is a bit sluggish but fully satisfactory.
MfG

Posted by: Gast_Chris September 13, 2019 06:31 pm

Posted by: Wörlein September 14, 2019 08:08 am

Posted by: Gast_Kaffeetrinker September 14, 2019 12:16 pm

Have already informed me a little about a structural change of the BE. But nowhere find photos of the allegedly changed BE.
MFG

Posted by: Wörlein September 14, 2019 06:36 pm

Well, maybe Chris will provide us with the information we need.

Posted by: Chris050188 September 15, 2019 11:37 am

Yes of course! On the left is the new one. Whether this will now prevent the jamming in the future I can not judge. Production stamp of the brewing group is 07/19. MfG

Posted by: Wörlein September 15, 2019 12:30 pm

Hello, Chris,

Super, many thanks Below I also see a metal bracket that certainly holds some tension. You haven't found any product name you could google for, have you?
But good to know that there is a revised version in any case

Posted by: Gast_Guido September 21, 2019 09:23 am

Many, many, many thanks.

Posted by: Wörlein September 21, 2019 10:07 am

Posted by: Gast_Guido September 21, 2019 04:03 pm

Posted by: janw October 05, 2019 01:37 pm

Hi, everybody,

have had an EQ.9 in operation for about a year. Because of the "Cleaning the brewing unit" problem, this was already with Siemens after 2-3 months and came back with the comment "Brewing unit sluggish" or something similar. Then it went on for a while, but it didn't take long for the problem to reappear.

The milk system with the docking container is really well done - but apart from that I really think the machine is a faulty construction. What the part in the area of the brewing group "rumsaut" is really remarkable. If you don't wipe and clean all the time, you'll get mold immediately. A much cheaper De'Longhi ECAM 350.55.B, which I have standing in the office, is really spotless inside - a few small crumbs here and there, that's it - in the Siemens on the other hand everywhere coffee powder - down on the brewing group, on the red plate, behind the brewing group - just everywhere. Siemens seems to think this is perfectly normal.

I am now considering whether I should try to send the new brewing group mentioned above to Siemens, or whether I should send it in again and then - expecting that the problem is not solved permanently - try a conversion (return against refund of the purchase price) - I had bought the machine at a Für-Uns-Shop.

GreetingsJan

Posted by: Wörlein October 05, 2019 02:50 pm

Hello, Jan,

So with my EQ9 it's the same. Only the brewing unit is a bit dirty which I clean every 1-2 weeks. Behind it or next to it there is no or hardly any dirt.

Try the rubber one. I imagine that since then she's been using a little less powder and I know it sounds funny, but since then the coffee tastes better to me again. Maybe even imagination.

The EQ4 was a misconstruction, but otherwise I'm pretty happy with the EQ9... once you have the brewing unit under control

Still got the first rubber in it, by the way.

Posted by: Gast48 October 23, 2019 07:57 pm

Hello, we also had a lot of trouble with the EQ 9 with the error message "Clean brewing unit"...
The machine was even in repair 4 months ago to replace the BE. Now the trouble started again. The tip with the greasing of the spindle was great. Coffee's running
again.

I bet they don't even

know that from

the garage

.

To unlock the BE I can give the tip, simply wait a short time with the machine switched off, then it's easy.

Posted by: Gast_Manni November 12, 2019 07:47 am

Hello, since I now have the 3 brewing unit in my EQ 9 S500 in the meantime, I've made myself a bit smart and see there is a new revised brewing unit but only via Siemens directly to buy, the old had the article number 11010422 the new article number is now 11032774 but as I said you can only order it via Siemens directly.Greetings Manni

Posted by: hans-hansen November 12, 2019 08:03 am

The brew group article number 11032774 is not only available from Siemens
, but several times on the Internet, price around 70
EUR.

Search for "article number 11032774"!

Posted by: Gast_Manni November 12, 2019 08:36 am

Hello, just not, I have written to all leading shops and all have written back that there is the improved brewing unit only at Siemens directly, all send only the 11010422 and point out that the original brewing unit which is only at Siemens has the number 11032774 as here https://www.mds-onlineshop.de/ersatzteile-kaffeevollautomaten/bruehgruppe-brueheinheit-siemens-kaffeevollautomat-fuer-serie-eq9-11010422-original/a-16564

Greetings Manni

Posted by: Gast_Manni November 12, 2019 08:53 am

Here a statement on my inquiry at ersatzteilshop.deHallo Mr. Miklerleider
is the current brew group with the successor article number 11032774 not yet in stock.11010422 is ordered unfortunately still the old version from Siemens delivered.the new version is currently only available from Siemens
directly.

Thank you very much for your

understanding and if you have any

further questions

, please do not hesitate to contact us.

Best regardsYour



team from ersatzteilshop.de

Posted by: Wörlein November 12, 2019 02:27 pm

Just take the rubber. Costs nothing and not a single pale since then

Greetings Bernd

Posted by: Gast_Dirk November 16, 2019 11:03 am

Moin
,Bought me a used EQ9S500 with remaining warranty. As a precaution, I called Siemens Customer Service and said that my brewing group was running sluggishly. They were very nice and said that this problem had been solved with the new brewing group since September. They're sending me one. The important detail is that the stamp is pressed over at the right moment by a spring at the bottom. I'm curious to see how well this works in continuous use. I can recommend anyone to call customer service. I can imagine that they
are
still good after the warranty period
.

Greeting Dirk

Posted by: mcokr November 19, 2019 12:20 am

Moin, our EQ9 comes back tomorrow for the second time with the same error picture from the repair at first the brewing group was exchanged now exactly one year later the brewing group is exchanged again and a software error was fixed... the first repair was on guarantee for the second one is just 250€ in the room... Now I wonder why the SW error was not discovered and fixed at repair 1 and perhaps could have prevented repair 2...
I find the revised brew group exciting, I hope you have used the new one and I can still settle that somehow on goodwill...

Posted by: Guest November 21, 2019 07:45 am

Hello, what was that software bug?

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Posted by: Wörlein November 24, 2019 10:26 pm

It's sad they let you ask them for so long and annoy the customers. Of course one or the other pays for a new brew group, but that's bad for your image in the long run. With me anyway is still the simple rubber in it and I had never again problems
Beautiful rest weekend you

Posted by: Wörlein November 24, 2019 10:29 pm

Posted by: Aramedes November 25, 2019 11:11 pm

Posted by: Aramedes November 25, 2019 11:13 pm

My machine goes to SIEMENS for repair tomorrow. I hope the functioning new brewing group will be able to get in there under guarantee.

Posted by: Wörlein November 26, 2019 02:12 am

Well there I am but curious ^^ Good
luck

Posted by: Gast_Rainer November 28, 2019 07:51 am

It's really the rubber hose.
Got the same
problem....

Only glued tape over the bend on the rubber hose

. It's

gone since

then.

Straighten the hose and with tape - even better insulating tape - so to speak, shine.

Posted by: Aramedes November 28, 2019 10:31 pm

Tuesday has gone our good piece with GLS on journeys Friday she comes back again. That was really fast. The brewing group was exchanged around 11032774 and the expansion tank. That was apparently defective, too. And SW Update was done. With the new brewing group the problem with hanging will be solved safely, because now a spring plate prevents the automatic turning before swiveling out. I can't tell you what the epansion tank had. But the service was great. Even if I would have preferred a ready-developed machine right at the beginning.

Posted by: Armalite-2 December 05, 2019 07:06 am

Hello

I had the same problem always after about 8 months the brewing unit jams.
Since my EQ9 S700 has an extended warranty it went
to the Mediamarkt
on 23.11.
19.

Since I got the info with the new brewing unit here, I passed it on to Mediamarkt Service. Yesterday 04.12.19 the machine came

back

with the new brewing unit

.
I'm Happy. The additional guarantee has already
paid off.
Tobi

Posted by: Gast_Milo December 24, 2019 12:36 pm

Hello everyone
, I have had my Q9 700 for over 2 years. BG has also become sluggish after many daily cleanings with hard water. I have already cleaned it 2 times with baking soda and afterwards also immediately with citric acid. The lime and the remains of coffee make it hard to move after a certain time. Remove the O-ring, also remove the lower moving part including the spring and clean it as well
.

It is best to put the whole BG in a hot bain-marie (use the correct container so that the whole BG is under water), swivel it from time to time with BG and move it up and down with the spindle so that the remains of coffee and oil come off. Use a brush to help and then pour plenty of citric acid or vinegar over it until it foams. And here it also takes some time for the lime to dissolve. Here also swivel from time to time with BG and move up and down with the spindle. It will then become slightly more mobile than before... You just need to grease the O-ring, you put it all together. Dan you have again approx. ¾ year time until next

cleaning...

Posted by: Gast_Milo December 26, 2019 10:23 am

Hello everyone
, I have had my Q9 700 for over 2 years. BG has also become sluggish after many daily cleanings with hard water. I have already cleaned it 2 times with baking soda and afterwards also immediately with citric acid. The lime and the remains of the coffee make it difficult to BG after some time. Remove the O-ring, also remove the lower moving part including the spring and clean it as well
.

It is best to put the whole BG in a hot bain-marie (use the correct container so that the whole BG is under water), tilt it from time to time with BG and move it up and down with the spindle so that the remains of coffee and oils come off. Use a brush to help and then pour plenty of citric acid or vinegar over it until it foams. And here it also takes some time for the lime to dissolve. Here also swivel from time to time with BG and move up and down with the spindle. It becomes much easier to move than before, and the problem is solved. All you have to do is grease the O-ring and put everything back together again. Then you have again approx. ¾ year time until next

cleaning...

Posted by: Spotti December 27, 2019 08:32 am

Hello, I have super soft water without lime and yet I already have the 3 brewing unit in 2.5 years in it, so it is not the limy water but it is simply a faulty design by Siemens, now have the new improved brewing unit in it and it works so far without problems, but have all moving parts that do not come into contact with coffee with food fat sprayed, let's see how long it holds this time I'll keep you up to date!

Posted by: Gast_Daniel January 12, 2020 04:03 pm

Hello, everybody!

I have similar problems with both of our EQ machines
, Siemens Service has
promised
me by phone
to replace the brewing unit.
I have also
requested
this via email from Siemens (
Für Uns Shop)
, because the warranty
expires
next
week.
The old group should probably simply
be replaced
by the improved model
. I
hope you have been
treated
as cultured
.

Posted by: Gast_Hermann January 21, 2020 05:19 pm

Posted by: Maggus January 28, 2020 03:11 pm

I ordered my brew group here today.

https://www.ersatzteileshop.de/11010422-bruehgruppe-11032774-kaffeemaschine?gclid=CjwKCAiA1L_xBRA2EiwAgcLKA74dt6XhRV1dvzLZahpPmzAbE8pSx7QnqjpIPKkD-kL4bVZFrgzWFBoCUoQQAvD_BwE

It's the new

Posted by: Juraliebhaber February 24, 2020 11:17 am

We have been using the EQ 9 S300 for almost 2 years now. The
machine is a
complete disaster.

All over the inside, marc is spread out and starts to mold on these red plastic parts. The brew group is so badly constructed that there is always something falling out somewhere and that's probably why you need these red spoilers. Constantly you have to clean or refill something. Actually, we were just gonna have coffee. I would have

invested

the 1000 Euro better in another

brand.
I am thinking about getting our 18 year old Jura machine back from the attic, it
cost a
good 3000 DM at that time
.
Only the milk function at Siemens convinces us. The old Jura really can't compete with that.

Posted by: Spotti February 25, 2020 07:04 am

just buy the new brewing unit and then you can relax!

Posted by: Gast_Georg March 14, 2020 02:32 pm

Fortunately we still had a warranty on the device. Collection and repair of the machine by BSH within 5 days. The brewing unit is definitely new and looks like a "face-lift". Since then we have (still) no problems. Pomace is much drier and the brewing unit much less dirty! If you still have a warranty: off to BSH!

Posted by: agima2000 May 13, 2020 12:34 pm

Finally it seems that they have worked on the problem. I helped myself with a rubber in the last brew group, today I got a new brew group, and there some changes were made. e.g. an additional spring plate was installed, they learned from our rubber trick :-)
Left New version Right the ALTE

Posted by: Sven Pache May 25, 2020 04:34 pm

Posted by: Trebreh May 31, 2020 09:00 pm

Silicone spray definitely helps:
I got my first one straight out where the hose was kinked. It was kept super clean and dry but nothing moved on the fast... so I didn't dare to twist anything in any way. With the in use one, I could turn the sample and knew
now in which direction.

I treated the old one with the silicone spray on the rotating parts and on the spindle, so the thread, removed the old rubber ring and? Also

this one slips again.
thanks to all the writers in this forum. BRAVO-KLATSCH-SMILEYnow

I should only know where the small black ring belongs, which is included in the repair set, (but I can get it out) and where I can order a spare pressure hose, then I would have a change unit
....

Posted by: Jens-kartg June 04, 2020 10:08 pm

Hello, everyone,

first of all many thanks for all the tips, this helps a lot.

For the new brewing unit, there is also an "original" version from Siemens
called "Brewing unit Siemens 11032774 V01", here the
red parts are
conspicuous
.
Can anyone here say something to say, already
tested? Greetings from Jens

Posted by: Gast_matte August 06, 2020 08:13 am

Hello, everyone,

I also tried to repair the EQ9 S500 of my brother. "Unfortunately" before I read the thread completely. However, I found out the connection that the holder of the sieve hangs down slightly and thus sometimes jams when stripping the coffee grounds, because it is not yet engaged below as described in many entries.

Instead of a rubber to bring the components back to the place where they were, I took a cutter knife and at the bottom, where there are two guide lugs, I cut off a piece. With that the jamming can not happen anymore. Works the same way.

The hose itself I was not aware that it could cause this. I will take a closer look at it next time when I am back. Not that I am concerned that over time the malposition will lead to a complete failure.

Thank you also for the information that there is a new brewing unit. On the first picture it looked so very different that I doubted if it would fit to the old one

This is however a good alternative for 70 Euro to order them, especially since the warranty has now expired since knap 3 months... -.-

Best regards
,Mat

Posted by: Trebreh August 07, 2020 07:30 am

I get involved here with my Frageda
I do not know how
to look for it:
At the moment my machine "creaks" when I start up and down and after I have a cup of coffee, so when everything goes back to its original position, is there still some
plastic
rubbing somewhere
?

I just remembered, I could try it by hand,

I will report

(but maybe there is already a Fred and I would be grateful for

the link)
The tip with the nose I will have a look at my old unit, the one with the defective hose. There is still missing a tip where I can buy it.

Posted by: Spotti August 09, 2020 07:55 am

Hello, I have the new improved brewing unit for 3 weeks in my EQ9 S500 installed, unfortunately, even this does not work properly, it has already 4x jammed, then I mounted the rubber again and since then is quiet, in other forums users have the same problem with the new brewing unit, from Siemens I am disappointed that they can not get such a thing under control with a fully automatic machine for over 1000 €

Posted by: Verena-E. September 02, 2020 07:48 pm

Posted by: Gast_matte September 07, 2020 11:07 am

Hello Spotti

Unfortunately I cannot upload pictures as a guest, but I found a picture here that focuses on the respective nose slightly left of the middle of the picture.



Right on the opposite side there is another nose like that. I simply cut these two off a little at the top until the brewing unit could be moved without problems. Tip: use a spoon or screwdriver, which you insert into the brewing unit from above, to move the mechanism for the test.

According to her sister-in-law, the coffee machine is now in daily operation for over a month and hasn't complained since then that she wanted the brewing unit cleaned.

Best regards
,Mat

Posted by: Gast_Ralf September 29, 2020 05:42 pm

Posted by: Gast_Kevin October 06, 2020 08:27 am

Hello, everyone,

So I can confirm that the problem also occurs with the new brewing group. I ordered it directly from Siemens at the beginning of the year. Since then I haven't had any more problems until today.

The same problem here - the brewing unit swings out too early and then blocks. I was able to solve the problem by reinforcing the hose with insulating tape, but I will write to Siemens, as the brewing unit is less than a year old.

Posted by: Gast_heinz October 07, 2020 01:03 pm

Posted by: flipper October 12, 2020 11:43 pm

I'm interested in the current Siemens EQ.9 plus connect s500
, and in my current machine, a SAECO Magic Comfort Plus, I was able to unscrew, clean, degrease and reassemble the entire brewing unit. Is this also possible with the BE of the EQ.9 plus
connect s500
?LG Markus

Posted by: Spotti October 14, 2020 02:55 pm

leave it.you only have problems with this EQ9 I and others can sing a song about it!

Posted by: Frank_Cologne December 01, 2020 08:51 am

Posted by: Spotti December 01, 2020 11:50 am

I have the brand new brewing unit and the error comes back exactly the same as with the old one, I don't know what Siemens thinks about it, I mounted the rubber on the new brewing unit and since then I've had peace and quiet!

Posted by: Gast_Jakob December 10, 2020 11:51 am

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Posted by: Gast_Enrico January 24, 2021 02:23 pm

Posted by: Steho January 24, 2021 09:42 pm

Hello all!

Came across the forum because I was looking for something on the EQ9.

I also had this nagging issue with the brew group....

Here is my solution, which I even sent to Siemens as a design improvement in great detail over a year ago - they did not see a "design problem" and ignored my explanations.

Maybe it helps one or the other, I have it in the friends and acquaintance circle already several times installed and so far all top contently - is another approach, causes however exactly the same as the rubber ring ;-)

I use a 11mm stainless steel anti-kink spring (amazon or bay), which you bring to the right length and put over the silicone hose - this creates the necessary back pressure and the machine runs 1a!

The existing "one ear" clamp you get unfortunately not so really easy - but you can pull the hose with measured force even with the clamp (before clipping off the nozzle and pull JUST!!!!), then you can expand the clamp on the ear a little - but a NEW clamp is in any case the better choice!

A small Wehrmutstropfen: the spring touches possibly the inner housing of the machine and makes fine scratches - I do not mind, but it works...

I've attached a photo of the modification, would be happy if it can help one or the other here and you just do NOT buy a new brewing unit from the manufacturer - even the "new version" (I have here) makes the same problems sooner or later.

Nevertheless: Imitation at your own risk, I assume no liability for possible loss of warranty or consequential damages!

Greetings,

Holger

Posted by: MasterTom February 05, 2021 02:40 pm

Hello fellow sufferers
, I bought an EQ9 about 8 months ago, because I thought with the new brewing unit the problem was solved. Now I have to find out that the second version (the one with the metal spring) has the same problem, because the holding forces are too low. However, I was very surprised when BSH sent me a replacement brewing unit. Under the number 11032774 (same as the second version), a third version was shipped to me. In this one, the metal spring has been omitted again. Instead, something has been changed in the lower right corner. You can't see exactly what's under the lid, but it makes sure that the lower part doesn't accidentally swing to the side anymore. When you do this by hand, you notice a definite resistance that gives way with a crackle. That's the way it has to be.


So if you also have problems with the second version, you should try to get this third version from BSH

.

I hope this one now lasts at least until the kinked hose bursts.

Posted by: Gast_Lars February 06, 2021 11:58 am

I have the problem with my brew group that the round metal sieve very often clogs. And indeed collects between the two sieve discs coffee grounds.

Since I can not find anything else to this problem I wonder if that must be at all two sieve discs, or whether perhaps only one belongs in there and with me accidentally two were installed.

Has anyone ever unscrewed and can tell me if that are really two ...?

Posted by: MasterTom February 06, 2021 04:36 pm

I just looked it up: only one metal screen belongs on the top brewing piston.

Posted by: Gast_Berni February 25, 2021 12:45 pm

Hello everyone,

also had the often described here problem with the brewing unit (machine bought April 2020)...have
ordered
me at Amazonfollowing
set

https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B07TY7BPKT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1und the spindle in rest very carefully greased...now already for 4 weeks the machine runs without problems at 3 uses a day...let's see if this is permanent...many greetings

Posted by: Gast_Stephan March 20, 2021 01:57 pm

Hello,

We had the message on our EQ.6 also constantly.
In desperation, we have, after the brewing unit was cleaned and the message still came, replaced by a BE.

Even with the new brewing unit the message came after a few draws.

What else can we do?

Posted by: Gast_Andreas March 22, 2021 11:58 am

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Posted by: trebreh01 June 06, 2021 05:14 pm

Hahaha -a tip if you have not read along! Because now you could copy everything in posts back here.....
The greasing helps only conditionally and briefly - as I also had to find out!!!

Posted by: trebreh01 June 06, 2021 06:14 pm

Posted by: PitStop June 14, 2021 07:37 am

Hello coffee lovers!

Just do what the machine wants: clean the brewing unit! I
have the problem with frequent error message also had, until the machine then no longer ran. Because the machine was still under warranty after less than a year, I had to find the receipt, which took about a week. During that week, the machine remained unused. After my last attempt, during that week the brewing unit was outside the machine and drying really well. Now, as I was putting everything together for shipment to the manufacturer, the brewing unit slipped out of my hands and rumbled onto the table. Although I thought I had cleaned the brewing unit really well, there were thick, dry lumps of coffee grounds coming out of the brewing unit that all had one thing in common: the imprint of spring coils.

So, when cleaning, make sure that the area around the spring is brushed well with a very thin brush! Here the machine presses in coffee grounds until irgebddwann the spring travel is no longer sufficient. Due to high pressure, the ground coffee there is almost as hard as concrete and it is hardly noticeable that here is not properly cleaned.

Small problem solved with great effect.
Good luck!

Posted by: Gast_Harry June 20, 2021 07:23 pm

Super great post..With a rubber....solves the problem...incredible....
Short angeflext the notch..already it works...Thanks for the tip...

Posted by: Gast_Neil July 09, 2021 11:23 am

Posted by: Dr. VTEC July 27, 2021 09:44 am

Hello all. I have also met the fate of "clean the brew group".
My EQ9 is one and a half years old and reports since a few months, more and more often, that I should clean the brew group. That's how I came across this great and very helpful forum.
The simple trick with the rubber I find very good. However, my hose, which is probably intentionally always bent in two places, shows the first signs of wear.
I would now like to exchange this black hose for a new one and also mount this protective spring but I can't find this hose anywhere in the www as a spare part.
Who can help me and tell me where I can order this hose with clamps and the protective spring.

Greetings Thomas

Posted by: Gast_Bine July 30, 2021 11:48 am

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Posted by: trebreh01 August 30, 2021 07:37 am

Hello, it is a normal household rubber , as you have seen On the photos of 17 Aug 2019, if you have read through from A to Z.... somewhere (in KOMTRA forum ?) Hangs the rubber in a paper clip, a hole is drilled faster....
You more elegant solution is still the pressure spring solution or the Anfeilen, only svhade that the post creator had reingestellt da krine foto...

@gadt_bineThis
is the big part (tube) with the skeleton in the middle of the brewing unit meant
.
So that the oil, comes directly to the places, must use a spray with red tube, otherwise spray in a lid and apply with a brush ...
So that you get everywhere, put a pair of scissors in the top and turn carefully

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Posted by: revolt October 25, 2021 06:23 pm

Our Siemens EQ.9 Connect S500 was purchased at the end of July 2019 After more than two years, we also had the error "clean brewing unit" for the first time on 11/09/2021.

So far have only sparingly applied silicone grease to the spindle, moving parts and O-seal rubber every few months, as I did with my previous Delonghi machines. Recently also just changed the O rubber.

Landed here on the forum while troubleshooting and have read the many great tips:

- Regularly (weekly) clean-
Grease spindle-
Turn pressure hose 180 degrees- Pressure
hose as well as the hose clamps or. Replace the pressure hose and the hose clamps or one-eared clamps-
Reinforce
the
pressure hose with
a spring

to
relieve the strain, so that kinking is prevented
- Support the tension of the pressure hose with a rubber or a spring-
Grind down/round off the plastic bar "lugs" at the lower end of the spindle-
As long as the warranty is still in force, have the brew group replaced free of chargeCause



is





therefore a mechanical problem, which is primarily related to the kinking of the pressure hose and the resulting weakening of the spring effect





.







You can then start at various points to find a "workaround" for the problem. If you grease, grind and increase the tension with rubbers and springs, the spring action of the hose is no longer so crucial.

In my case, greasing alone was enough to keep me from having a problem with the brew group for over two years. Whereby there may also be manufacturing tolerances in several places of the unit, whereby different measures can help.

So when the fault occurred, I tested various tips here one after the other: greased the spindle in the lower area as well, removing the housing there. After that, I also grinded the plastic lugs at the bottom of the spindle several times. However, after a few days the problem kept coming back.

Only since I turned the pressure hose 180 degrees about three weeks ago have I had peace. So with my brew group, this hose is apparently the main problem. I'm now waiting to see if the message comes back and will then try replacing the hose. I wonder if the original hose can be bought cheaply for the end user?

I think in the meantime, ideally with greasing and occasionally changing the hose, you can keep the brewing unit going for a long time. The other aids mentioned are only of use, and inexpensively, when the hose should be replaced anyway.

In the event that the brewing unit at some point completely strikes, I already have a replacement brewing group in the cabinet (new model Siemens 11043543), which the Siemens customer service kindly provided me once as a gesture of goodwill despite recently expired warranty.

Posted by: trebreh01 October 25, 2021 08:35 pm

Hello, revolt - all correctly captured - great

So I haven't filed off a nose yet -.

with my first BE, where this occurred, I have fixed it with the rubber. It's just a visual problem, but it helps.

Turning the hose, I suspect, will not bring anything for long.
An Orginal hose I could not find - whether the commercial build up the tension so, I do not know.

Attaching an appropriate pressure spring over the hose is easy, as you only have to open one clamp - the outermost one - and can then push the spring onto the hose. I re-clamped the 1-eared clamp without special pliers. It's been quiet ever since, I just have to watch it when cleaning to see if the spring has shifted....

Posted by: Gast_Tom November 17, 2021 02:05 pm

Hello,

Clean brewing unit keeps coming up.
Call customer service: new brewing unit under warranty, very obliging. Switzerland.
Let's see.

Posted by: trebreh01 November 17, 2021 07:07 pm

Then pick up the old times nice,
can pull over there the spring and you already have a replacement.
Too bad that you live in Switzerland, would have you in D a spring and clamp cheap to send to, - unless you live near Zurich, there drives one of the spot weekly there....

Why the whole thing? With me, a brewing unit is already cracked when cleaning (tablet fell probably on edge pure ...?)

Posted by: Gast_Gast November 30, 2021 03:11 pm

Hello, also here a plagued coffee connoisseur, looking for the
solution to the problem with the BE I landed here. Class, that there are people who share their experiences and tips with others!
I have today times the hose turned by 180 ° and hope the first peace is
.

I would still like to mount an anti-kink spring. Can someone tell me the dimensions?
The hose (as a replacement) there seems to be nowhere.
Thanks a lot!

Posted by: Gast_Mark December 07, 2021 11:07 pm

My EQ.9 700 is now 1.5 years old and has also ceased operation with the message "clean brewing unit".

I was already despairing and have just tried the rubber band trick.
It really works - I'm pretty gobsmacked

Thanks for the tip

!

Posted by: Gast_Heiko January 30, 2022 09:10 pm

Posted by: jürg February 12, 2022 08:44 am

Also had/have the same problem with my expensive Eq9 S700. The first few times brav cleaned the BE and was good - last still for a few covers, then it went to me slowly on the Senkel. Will yes drink coffee in the morning and not clean first

Googled and ended up here reading all the threads.

The culprit really seems to be the hose, especially the two kinks that prevent the BE from being ready for the next draw again. The kinks apparently prevent the swiveling process from being completed cleanly. The hose apparently has two functions: To carry water and as a swivel aid.

Possible solutions
:1. exchange BE (under warranty)2


. Install rubber band3
. Spring around the hose4
. Pull insulating tape around the kinksI

chose solution 4 for my machine because it was the easiest to do

.

And lo and behold:

Problem solved. Since approx. 10 days finally peace in the Gebälk.

I would like to thank everyone here for their suggestions and hope that this article will help one or the other to forget the trouble with the otherwise superautomatic machine.

Greetings Jürg

Posted by: Gast_Wolfgang March 09, 2022 02:51 pm

Posted by: trebreh01 March 12, 2022 09:44 am

Posted by: revolt April 18, 2022 11:07 am

Found the channel, erhei0t "Arnold OnlineHelpNoProblem" and here is the video for the brew group:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVVu8Efdp1E

The repair kit is sold here: https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/siemens-bruehgruppe-reparatur-set-wartungsset-fuer-eq9-eq500-eq700/2057045065-86-143

However, I must say that I find the price a bit steep for a hose with spring, 2 clamps and 2 sealing rubbers. With shipping to Germany, that would cost me 26.20 euros (17 euros the parts, 8 euros shipping, 1.20 euros buyer protection). If you consider that the complete brew group is already offered for less than 70 euros...

Posted by: swolle April 18, 2022 08:17 pm

komtra.com/nivona-spare-parts/nivona-spare-parts/silicone-fabric-hose-l180mm-nivona-full-coffee-automatic.html

This one works perfectly, the clamps that are on the original hose can be pried open a bit and squeezed again.

Posted by: revolt April 18, 2022 09:59 pm

The hose here is the one from the pump to the thermoblock. Sure that the high pressure at the brew group can withstand and not burst?

Posted by: swolle April 19, 2022 04:27 am

yes, already tested!

Posted by: Jetclimber April 26, 2022 03:21 pm

Posted by: Franz Rechberger May 15, 2022 08:17 am

I have also had the problem for years. My recommendation: Clean well (not in the dishwasher) also Oring take out and lightly grease with food grade silicone grease.
And important !!! [/B]On the threaded spindle I have also given a few drops of silicone grease on it since the funktioiert the machine perfectly without error messages.

Posted by: McLindi May 17, 2022 06:20 pm

I can only confirm the "rubber" solution. Runs for a good two years with me without problems.
I was already close to selling the machine. Thank God I found the post here.
Otherwise, the part is namely a dream.

Posted by: Felle July 21, 2022 11:47 pm

To grease the spindle: You can turn the spindle up and down by turning the cross on the upper side of the brewing unit (I use a piece of wood for this). This way you can get almost all the way to the spindle and grease it and all the moving parts. I had the error message once about 2 years ago and never again after that with this procedure. I grease the entire spindle about every four weeks.

VG

Posted by: Gast_Ulla September 11, 2022 08:26 am

Posted by: revolt September 11, 2022 10:15 am

As far as I know, silicone spray is not suitable for this, you have to get silicon grease, which is food safe and sold for a few euros especially for coffee machines. These are small tubes or jars, which then last for years.

And not for everyone this greasing has helped in the long run I also first read through 10 pages here. I then summarized everything that was recommended, see: https://www.kaffeevollautomaten.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=38851&view=findpost&p=125111 //www.kaffeevollautomaten.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=38851&view=findpost&p=125111

Posted by: Gast-Maddin September 12, 2022 09:57 am

Hello,

in the error cause research I landed here in the forum and have read the many great tips. With us, the error also began shortly after the purchase. So far, however, I could remedy with the regular weekly cleaning and greasing the O-ring of the brew group, until last week. Since then, unfortunately, no longer helped and also the installation of a new O-ring brought no success. Have then implemented these suggestions from the forum:

- Grease the spindle-
Turn the pressure hose 180 degrees-
Reinforce the
pressure
hose with tape-
Support the tension of the pressure hose with a rubberYet

also without success.

Remedy succeeded unfortunately only by the purchase of a new brewing group, there is also a new model Siemens 11043543. According to Siemens, my machine is unfortunately beyond the 48-month goodwill solution so I got unfortunately no more brewing unit on goodwill.
All others should perhaps still try this way.
The brewing group for the EQ9 was available in the bay for 74.90 € instead of 105.45 € at Siemens.

Posted by: revolt September 12, 2022 11:56 am

After more than 4 years, I think it's okay to buy a new brew group. In your case, the first has then lasted quite a long time without major interventions.

Posted by: Thanks for help March 10, 2023 08:01 pm

lubricating the spindle solved the problem.

Posted by: HelpJack September 18, 2023 01:48 pm

Hello,
who wants to solve the problem forever without a new BG zukaufen or rubber hack wants to make.
Is there now the spare parts to buy from Siemens, with the spring guide.
Fits all models.

https://www.siemens-home.bsh-group.com/de/produktliste/12036970#/Tabs=section-fitsappliance/Togglebox=manuals/


Hope could help all

Posted by: Cartman1977 November 18, 2023 11:55 pm

Has anyone already used this part?

Is it replaced at the bottom or attached?

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