Help with purchase decision

Hello

Bin on the search for my first KV have already read several threads on this but not really smart from it .

search actually only one KV the really good coffee makes up max 700 €
cappu, latte, etc must not be would only be a nice to have



bisher I was quite taken by delonghi esam 5400
now I have ne wmf 450 in my eyes

has someone vlt ne recommendation ??

thank you

has here nobody any experiences with the Delonghi ESAM 5400

or the WMF 450 to the wmf I find in the forum times nothing at all seems to act around a ghost like are otherwise so the experiences with wmf

joy me about every answer

The WMF machines are at the moment the robust Kv for the household from the technical construction and work really very good and reliable.
The little to read about WMF is due to the fact that until recently WMF only started with the WMf 800 and it is expensive with a price of 1690 recjt and there you look for experience for a long time exactly as well as experience from current Rolls Royce Phantom
The WMF 500 and WMF 450 are only available since the beginning of the year and 4 months on the market.

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Kaffeevollautomaten:
Delonghi ESAM 3000B (2 Moante sehr zufreiden)
Saeco Talea Ring Plus (3 Monate UNzufreiden)
Jura ENA5 (1 Jahr super zufrieden)
Siemens EQ7 (8 Monate Anfangs toll dannach genervt 2 x zur Reparatur einmal neue BG ueber Support angefordert)
WMF 800 seit 1.12.09 Klasse
Siebträger
Bezzera BZ07 DE mit Bezzera BB005 Timer (Mühle) seit Mai 2011
Nespresso Krups XN 2720 für die Arbeit

I myself currently have an ESAM 5500 in use and am satisfied. Looks chic and makes a good cappuccino. However, the milk foaming system is quite susceptible to residual dirt and must be kept meticulously clean, otherwise the beautiful foam is missing.

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Gruß Fred


1988-2005 LaPavoni Professional
2005-2010 DeLonghi EAM4300chs
2010- DeLonghi EAM3400chs (ab und zu, steht noch als Notlösung rum)
2011- DeLonghi EAM3500chs
2012- Philips HD5730 (in Gebrauch, kann gekauft werden)
2012- DeLonghi Esam5500 Perfecta (in Gebrauch, kann gekauft werden)
? PrimaDonna: demnächst :)

thanks for the replies

ok that makes sense when it's so new that it doesn't give so many ratings yet hope only that I can expect the same quality from the "cheap" model as from the higher priced WMF segment .

tendiere now after a long study of manuals and recessions to WMF I am fascinated by the settings

had 2 prices 650€ in the book

or 699€ at otto which licensed WMF dealer is

blocks question: Who is giving the warranty WMF or the dealer

thank you

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@feuer.stein

>The 5400 would be easier to clean the milk system because it has only one steam plant as I read it

although the set from the local description "cappuccinatore milk cover From the integrated container" also leaves a lot of space for fantasy it doesn't have a milk container, does it?

I wouldn't know that DeLonghi has machines that have an inner milk container.
The 5400 is actually just the little sister of the 5500. As you have already seen, no autocappu, only the steam lance, otherwise the same.

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Gruß Fred


1988-2005 LaPavoni Professional
2005-2010 DeLonghi EAM4300chs
2010- DeLonghi EAM3400chs (ab und zu, steht noch als Notlösung rum)
2011- DeLonghi EAM3500chs
2012- Philips HD5730 (in Gebrauch, kann gekauft werden)
2012- DeLonghi Esam5500 Perfecta (in Gebrauch, kann gekauft werden)
? PrimaDonna: demnächst :)

thanks again for replying

will now a wmf 450

will write a little report when it is finally there.