Review of the new Melitta Caffeo CI

After a good 3 weeks test phase with the new Melitta Caffeo CI, my wife and I are very excited!

Vorab, these properties apply to about 3 weeks test phase. This means that one or the other can still change or comes to it. Finally, it is my opinion and my experience or test report.

Positive characteristics:

-Super fast warm-up phase(less than 1min)
-4 personal cup settings or taste settings
-Tall milk foam, firm and even
Multiple setting options, e.g. Temperature, water quantity, milk quantity, bean quantity, coffee strength, switch-off time, energy saving function, cleaning, descaling function, language settings, etc.
-easy cleaning of milk-carrying parts by Easy Cleaning Function
-2 bean container selectable, for different bean types
-2 cups or cappuccino or latte Mac. prepare simultaneously
-simple bean strength and grind setting
-simple and logical as well as intuitive operator guidance by means of the rotary wheel
-water filter easily replaceable in the water tank
-0 Watt switch
-machine greets the operator with "Good morning"
-even glasses up to 14cm can be used without problems
-illuminated buttons / LED cup lighting, gives the machine an elegant look
-simple cleaning of the milk suction system by removing the milk-carrying parts
-brew group easy to remove and clean
-second longer milk hose included in delivery, to also connect directly to a Tetrapack < br> starter pack supplied with descaler, cleaning tablet, milk system cleaner and small brush < br> < br> < br> < br> Negative features:

-no actively heatable cup warm-up surface (only the waste heat from the machine warms up a bit)
- for me personally the emptying of the residual water in the drip pan is a bit cumbersome
-collecting pan for residual water a bit too small, therefore more often emptying necessary
-operating noise could be somewhat quieter


>The machine makes great coffee crema, as well as cappuccino and latte in the right order. In addition, everything is fully automatic, without having to move the cup. Everything comes from a central height-adjustable spout with milk and coffee nozzles as well as a hot water nozzle. Not as with other manufacturers mostly, that one must make for a preparation several operations and must always remain with it. In addition, the CI can always prepare 2 portions simultaneously, if desired.

For a market price around 800€ incl. VAT(black version) a real, would almost like to say professional machine at the absolute competitive price. I have found nothing comparable for the price-performance ratio. I can currently recommend this machine to anyone who wants to enjoy coffee in a variety of ways.

On Youtube I have small videos set up with all the features of the machine. Just browse my channel.

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Melitta Caffeo CI

Melitta Caffeo CI

Videos Caffeo CI

It's a nice video. I also think it's good to see that the glasses don't get really full. 220 ml of milk foam is not enough, would like 240 ml. Unfortunately you can't tell if only liquid milk comes out or if the foam really is of good quality.

What machine makes Latte Macciato with 240 ml milk foam, does anyone know?

The glasses can also be filled up to the rim with milk foam. Simply select milk foam extra again. I must also say that they are not the most optimal latte glasses, a little too high!

When LATTE MACCHIATO: Warm milk and airy creamy milk foam first flow into the glass. Aromatic espresso is then added as a dark layer between the milk and the milk foam, giving this speciality its characteristic appearance.

The milk foam also depends on the milk. The more protein it contains, the firmer and creamier the milk froth becomes.

I find Mr. or Mrs. Guest funny, I don't want to say that Melitta makes the best coffee in the world, because I don't have any comparison possibilities except for a sample coffee in the shop, but I don't want to have a good coffee because 20ml milk foam is missing, I find "strange".
But everyone as he likes, if "240ml" is the only decision criterion.

I still tried to fill the 20ml gap, so far I haven't found anything on the devices with ml data (in the range of fully automatic machines) on one or the other Nespressomaschine there was a data of 240ml milk foam.

@@with milch&sugar : Thanks for the nice report. I myself am currently combing through the wide range of machines on offer. Most of the machines I like are around 1500 - 1600 Euro, except the Melitta. Which I'm not 100% sure about yet.
The Siemens EQ7 is supposed to make the hottest coffee, the Saeco Xelsis seems "more valuable" than the Melitta, but the Melitta does "the same" for less money. Do you use the possibility of the 2 different. Beans are really intense, or in the long run it will settle on a bean variety. I ask myself the same question among other things.

Hello guest Toni,

surely the 20 ml missing milk foam are not very important, but especially with this device it is pointed out that "even" the milk foam quantity is adjustable. Unfortunately, however, apparently not sufficient upwards.

With an 800 euro coffee machine I simply expect that it can produce a Latte Macciato in perfection. For the money I get 285 perfect Macciatos a Euro 2,80.

And if I read how maintenance-intensive, repair-prone all the fully automatic machines are and quickly become germ and mold incubators, then I have absolutely no desire to spend one cent for a "machine".

> again @Toni

the 2 bean system with this Melitta machine I call superfluous. If you switch to another bean variety, it will take 2-3 grinding processes until the new beans are taken at all and the beans are ready for use.

QUOTE (Guest @ Wednesday, 15.December 2010, 13:51 hrs)

Hello Gast Toni, surely the 20 ml missing milk foam are not very important, but just with this device it is pointed out that "even" the milk foam quantity is adjustable. Unfortunately, however, apparently not sufficient upwards. The reason for insufficient milk quantity, I have already described. With an 800 euro coffee machine I simply expect that it can produce a latte Macciato in perfection.  For the money I get in a good cafe after all 285 perfect Macciatos a Euro 2.80. And when I then read how maintenance-intensive, repair-prone all the fully automatic machines are and quickly become germ and mold incubators, then I have no desire at all to spend a cent for a "vending machine" at all. Then let it be simple and is good! >again @Toni the 2 bean system on this Melitta machine I call superfluous, repair-prone the whole automatic machines and quickly become germ and mold incubators. If you switch to a different bean variety, it takes 2-3 grinding processes until the new beans are taken at all and are ready for use. This assertion is only partially true, because it actually takes good 1 to 2 grinding processes until the beans are changed.

First of all, I don't think it's good if any "Guest" post posts here that hit across the field! Immediately criticize and mackle the posts, and just ruin them, and cause trouble.

I've already described the reason for insufficient milk. You can easily prepare an extra portion of additional foam.

Citation:

And when I read how maintenance-intensive, prone to repair all the fully automatic machines are and quickly become germ and mold incubators, then I have no desire at all to spend a penny for a "machine".

Then just let it stay and it's good!

>Quote:

I call the 2 bean system in this Melitta machine superfluous. If you change over to another bean variety, it takes 2-3 grinding processes until the new beans are taken at all and are ready for use.

This assertion is only partially true, because it actually takes good 1 to 2 grinding processes until the beans are changed.
Whether I use the system or not, I can answer clearly. After all, a strong bean is better suited for espresso than a slightly milder variety for normal coffee. Whether it will ultimately prevail is then a matter of taste.

QUOTE (Gast_Toni @ Tuesday, 14. December 2010)December 2010, 23:32 hrs)

Tuoni December 15, 2010 09:54 pm share contact Quote   Coffee drinker Group: Mitglieder Posts: 2 Member No.: 10928 Joined: December 15, 2010 So nu I am registered ^^ ( Gast_Toni Recommendations are difficult, right. That's why I look for "personal" testimonials to get a small picture of the devices that come into my shortlist. I don't really trust the recommendations of the "sellers", especially because they are currently mostly promoters ( at least I assume if the name tags of Saeco or Melitta are ). Guest December 16, 2010 01:35 am share Quote   Unregistered Hopefully no promoter or product manager of Melitta will write his testimonials here in the forum. ;-) Tuoni December 16, 2010 01:04 pm share contact Quote   Coffee drinker Group: Mitglieder Posts: 2 Member No.: 10928 Joined: December 15, 2010 yep , but that's why you get different opinions in the hope that not ALL work for one of the companies mit milch&zucker December 16, 2010 07:55 pm share contact Quote   Coffee drinker Group: Mitglieder Posts: 18 Member No.: 10662 Joined: November 28, 2010 So I can only speak of my previous positive experience of the machine. However, I had Saeco and Delonghi VA before, but not the same functionality as the Melitta CI. The Saeco Cafe Nova (built in 2003) at that time has gradually broken down after almost 2 years. Brewing group defective, display defective and all contact switches broken out. Total economic loss! The Delonghi ESAM 4500 was used for about 3 years in private (4-person household) daily operation. Now that it was beginning to leak just as gradually, among other things with the milk foaming device, I thought about buying a new one. The seals on the connection piece between the machine and the milk container are constantly defective or calcified or contaminated with milk residues. This led to leaks in the system and therefore no real milk foam. The brewing group also makes heavy running noises despite several maintenance operations in a service workshop. Furthermore, the internal water filter has already been changed because it is clogged. The heating system became leaky and was replaced during the warranty period. Even such small plastic parts are broken off several times. The display starts to pixelate. An advantage of the Melitta is the milk system. That was also one of the reasons why I decided to buy machines with the hose connection to the milk container from now on. Because with the CI, all milk-carrying connections are made of solid rubber. This means that a 100% tight connection is always made and there is no need to constantly replace any calcified or dirty, expensive O-rings. And the quick cleaning program Easy Cleaning is really super and easy. Also the cleaning program runs off promptly and cleanly. Using my experience reports you can see, a real purchase recommendation can actually not be awarded to any machine. After all, I can give a recommendation or a suggestion. But one thing is clear. Most VA are extremely expensive to purchase, and very costly to maintain and clean. P.S. I am not a salesman or promoter, as is claimed here, because otherwise I would hardly be allowed to put videos on the net myself!! lustaufkaffee December 21, 2010 08:06 pm share contact Quote   Coffee drinker Group: Mitglieder Posts: 20 Member No.: 10552 Joined: November 21, 2010 Hello, well then I am also writing a contribution to the Melitta CI. As I already had the Siemens EQ7 there and gave it back because the milk system of both models did not work (heaven knows why?), I am really very critical. I am happy with the Melitta. She makes a good latte, and the crema of the Caffe creme is wonderful. You can easily make extra milk foam and stop it whenever you want. It reacts immediately. Furthermore, the cleaning is really practical and done quickly. I have now tried all the cleanings once, and I am satisfied. The material of the drip tray can be cleaned very well, it is very smooth and nothing gets stuck. The bowl can also be pulled out and in very quietly without rattling (which was annoying in the Jura). I don't think the two types of coffee make much sense, but if you don't want to use it, the storage container gets bigger (both together then 300 g). Too little hot I find the temperature of the "hot" milk. You can't use that as a cocoa maker, but I don't want that either. The coffee is just right for me in the temperature. I won't let it stand for long. Tea water can also be used. Also I would buy it again, because it offers a lot of functions for the 800 Euro, compared to the other more expensive models. Great Christmas greetings ! Guest December 22, 2010 02:37 pm share Quote   Unregistered Can anyone tell me where you can order spare parts for the Melitta CI? I would like to replace the milk hose every 6 months, because I can imagine that it will become porous over time and that germs will settle on it. Has anyone ever ordered a hose for a test? It will surely cost only 2-3 Euro. What's the address where you can get the spare parts? mit milch&zucker December 22, 2010 08:58 pm share contact Quote   Coffee drinker Group: Mitglieder Posts: 18 Member No.: 10662 Joined: November 28, 2010 QUOTE (Guest @ Wednesday, December 22, 2010, 13:37 hrs) Can anyone tell me where you can order spare parts for the Melitta CI? I would like to replace the milk hose every 6 months, because I can imagine that it will become porous over time and that germs will settle on it. Has anyone ever ordered a hose for testing purposes? It will surely cost only 2-3 Euro. What is the address where you can get the spare parts? The milk hose is made of silicone and can therefore, under normal circumstances, not or only rarely become porous. In addition, no germs, or only a few, are deposited because the "Eeasy Cleaning" function is shown on the display after each milk purchase. Thus, hot water is led through the milk-carrying parts and then blown through the milk hose with hot steam shocks. Easy Cleaning. Thanks to the "Easy Cleaning" program, the milk system is cleaned quickly and hygienically. The milk-carrying parts are first cleaned with hot water and then with a steam jet. "Easy Cleaning" can be carried out at any time on request - but the CAFFEO® CI® will also remind you automatically after each milk purchase. E parts for the CI will probably not be found so quickly yet, as it was only launched on the market in October. The milk hose is the same as the Nivona series. The CI also comes with a short and a long milk hose. So you already have a replacement. >A good address for VA is this page: click Hannes123 December 26, 2010 09:14 am share Quote   Unregistered I would be interested to know if hot water also runs through the hose that sucks the milk out of the container or milk carton during "easy clean". 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