Melitta CI

Mm, I'm not sure what to do right now. Melitta CI sounds really good, but the workmanship is not supposed to be the best.............
br>HAb besides the Mellita several devices to choose from, but always come back to Melitta CI because of the features and price.

Hello Tottia and everyone else,

finally took my time last Thursday and went to several electronics stores to have a closer look at all the candidates.

The Melitta disappointed me the most about the processing. Everything looks pretty cheap and the brewing group would have to be an old Siemens, so nothing special.

The Saeco Exprelia/Xelsis is great optically, but if you take a closer look, they only boil with water. In other words, especially with the Xelsis I think you can't get enough for the high price.
What's also a disadvantage: The thing with the milk carafe is solved very elegantly, but the spout is not height-adjustable. If the cup is a little lower, it'll splash a lot. I already noticed this on YouTube videos.

At the end I had 2 favorites: The PrimaDonna 6600 and the Bosch VeroBar.

The Prima Donna 6700 is already a great device, but I preferred the 6600 because of the price. OK, the maximum glass height of 10 cm is pretty tight for many latte macchiato glasses, but otherwise it seems to be a pretty solid device. Unfortunately an acquaintance of mine, who works as a salesman in this area, said that they already got back some devices from this series because of electronic faults. I don't know if this also applies to the 6700.

Now I've come back to my old favorite and this is the VeroBar from Bosch and probably I'll even buy it next week. In the end, the small subtleties convince me here: The height-adjustable, separate spouts for coffee and milk, the many technical innovations and the free choice of whether I get the milk from the carafe or directly from the bag.

Oh yes, what struck me was that in the Prima Donna the only thing I noticed was the metal sieves on both sides of the brewing chamber. All others have plastic on at least one side. However, it is not clear to me whether this brings a decisive advantage. Maybe someone can enlighten me?

Greetings,
Olli

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Bosch VeroBar 300 Coffee Brown (TES 70358DE)

Hello,

Also if you think Melitta is cheap I don't know.
Have the Caffeo Solo without frother and I'm very happy with it.
By the way, all machines in the low to medium price segment have a quite cheap brewing group which is by no means better than Melitta.
For something really high quality you have to put down at least 600€.
Thereunder you will always find something seemingly inferior.
The brewing groups are all a bit primitive there and it's almost no stainless steel built in.
Nevertheless the Melitta models have a very good reputation with buyers and also the service is first class, even the HP leaves a very mature impression and is up to date when compared to other dusty advertising sites.


Greetings Chris

Hello Chris,

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By the way, all machines in the low to medium price segment have a rather cheap brewing group which is by no means better than Melitta. For something of really high quality you have to put down at least 600€.

>This was especially about the Melitta Caffeo CI and it really costs well over 600 Euro (at least 700-800 Euro, if you don't have a mega bargain on E-Bay). I don't know the Caffeo Solo, so I can't say anything about it.

In a direct comparison, the VeroBar does much better for me and that's worth the 100-200 Euro surcharge (expert offer for the VeroBar 300 in the vicinity: € 999,-- minus 100,-- Euro for the old appliance).

In any case, the Melitta CI was really my favourite until I had just looked at it in real life. But it could also be that it is okay for someone else, the tastes are (fortunately) different, even in terms of quality impression.
Do not misunderstand: I don't think they're bad. Only not good enough for 800 Euro.

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even the HP leaves a very mature impression and is up to date when compared to other dusty advertising sites.

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Bosch VeroBar 300 Coffee Brown (TES 70358DE)

Advertising is one thing, optics another and function a completely different topic.

I also found the DeLonghi the most beautiful and the attachable milk container practical. Unfortunately the DeLonghis always have probs, especially the milk foam. That's why I resold my pretty prima donnas (eBay). Trouble sucked.
The Melitta Caffeo Ci really looks very cheap and must not even be cleaned with a microfiber cloth. But it's really working perfectly. Many well-made little things only turn out during operation. It can do a lot more than all the others put together. Programming of drinks according to your own taste, e.g. you can set a bar in ml individually and store how much foam, how much milk (yes, you can do both), the coffee strength and the amount of coffee, and this even for several people separately. It's really got a lot of brain grease in it. I'm still thrilled, especially because the coffee tastes good and the milk foam is excellent without any ifs or buts.

I have not yet had a machine that is easier to clean and maintain. I've just discovered that even the collection tray can be completely dismantled in one easy step. E.g. marc container: rinse briefly under water, ready. That was not possible with the Primadonnas, in the corners always something got stuck and one forgets to scrape out the moulds in shortest time. The Melitta's container has no corners.
Try to clean the Primadonna's milk container connection to the coffee machine, cheese is almost always there. Clean will only break with fingers and flashlight, etc. There is also great foam sometimes, minimum condition to decalcify every 3-4 weeks. There are no filters.

May be you could write a book about them.
DeLonghi Primadonna: first-class optics, unfortunately poor in operation. Coffee flavor: very good.
Melitta Caffeeo Ci: Visual taste, first-class in operation, coffee flavor: first-class. The various aromas of the coffee sorts (nutty etc.), which I didn't notice before (coffee was always just coffee), can be tasted without any problems.

Now everyone can decide for himself whether he wants a coffee machine to show off or rather one that works excellently.

After many disappointments with great and several times expensive machines, I'm enthusiastic about the Melitte Ci. Nat. can also be improved a lot, but those are functionally only Peanuts.

Soooo. Meanwhile we use the machine for a few months. We are still very excited, almost like on the first day. The "fast" refers to the keys for coffee dispensing. The two most frequently used keys no longer have a label. It's not even a laser inscription. In the dark (twilight) the keys can no longer be kept apart. The LED row below is so bright that we take a flashlight when we take something other than the usual. This would be solvable with symbols glued in relief (preferably ais metal).

Otherwise, we have noticed many more thoughtful little things in the meantime. For example, the coffee grounds never stick to the container (rinsing under the tap is sufficient). The drip tray is totally dismountable (everything is just plugged in, even the splash guard), the cleaning is, compared to other machines (especially compared to the Promadonna) the purest pleasure. Nothing on the machine gets really dirty. Extremely little coffee powder in the compartment for the unit.

The best thing is: the coffee still tastes very good and the milk foam flows as well as on the first day, no matter which fat level the milk has.[B] There is nothing else to complain about, and that with intensive use. Thanks to the filter, decalcification was not necessary until now.

This milk measurement and the corresponding cleaning was the biggest deficiency for Primadonna and Saeco. With the Prima donna you have to adjust a dwarf to clean the connections. The milk can of the Delonghi Primadonna has even managed, after a relatively short time, to gum up the beautiful stainless steel screen of the water tank.

I got a message with a question, but I can't find the post. That's why I'm answering here. All coffee machines have something like daily prices, it can be that today one is very favorable, which is then long no longer inexpensive to get. Sometimes demonstration machines are sold very cheaply, with full service and warranty. My last DeLonghi Primadonna cost only a little more than half, according to the counter only 16 cups had been bought. Who wants cheap must buy cheap, or have patience and search regularly.

PS. I found a hair in Melitta's soup after all. The labeling (symbols) on the keys is very fast.

Hello! I would also like to get rid of my opinion about the Melitta Caffeo CI! We bought the machine in October 2010, and are/were thrilled. The coffee tastes great, the milk foam is awesome. Cleaning is easy and fast. Now to the negative experiences - Since we also drink a lot of coffee, some keys have almost completely lost their color. ICh then contacted Melitta, and I immediately got an answer, and the info that the machine is being picked up (UPS) and the keys are being replaced. Super! Then I got the machine back, and looked forward to my first Cafe Latte. Unfortunately the milk foam did not work at all anymore. The milk was squirted out, and it was quite a mess. I noticed while drinking the coffee that the portion quantities were not right. Then I measured a few portions, and they were all wrong. Well, I've informed customer service again. The machine was picked up again. Now she's still there , and I hope I get her back soon and working.
In the meantime I almost regret that I sent it in for the keys, otherwise it would still work. But I have to say that the customer service is great!! I was always kept up to date by phone and e-mail. I don't want another coffee machine either, because we just like the coffee so much, and we already had so many machines, and that's the only one where everything fits. Of course it is annoying, the machine is already a 2nd time for repair, but we hope very much that it is the last time. I guess the back and forth wasn't good. Who knows if she didn't fall down somewhere once and she got a damage in the process..... Well, I can't wait to see what happens next. LG Tine

Even if the thread here is a little bit older, but I am proud owner of this great machine only since yesterday. To all the advantages and disadvantages everything is already written in principle. Only the problem with the worn keys was new to me. And since I of course want to keep at least the key imprint with the rather modest look compared to other vending machines, I came up with something at short notice:
It's really amazing how exactly a strip of Tesa film fits the keys from the width. With a thin one (so that it just fits between key and case ) and sharp knives you can cut off the upper and lower edges exactly. So you have to look very closely at me to notice that there is something stuck over it. So I hopefully have also with frequent pressing of the keys for a long time something of the imprint.
Maybe it helps one or the other..

We've had the machine for 6 months now and really drink a lot from it,
but missing writing on the keys has been spared until now!

Hello,

were at Saturn and showed us some machines. Now have a Magic Comfort +, 8 years old and start macking. Have shortlisted the Bosch Verobar 100 and the Melitta CI. At Melitta we like the fact that you can select the coffee directly by pressing a button. The brochure also contains an adjustable coffee temperature of 87-90-93 degrees. There's nothing in the manual about that anymore. Question: Where do you set the temperature?
And can someone post how many pomace can fit into the container? Many thanks, tschaui, Dietmar

The temperature is set in a submenu. However, there are no degrees there, but something like warm, hot...


Pomace fit in a lot, but the machine rinses with a lot of water and asks relatively often to empty the container. It must be emptied more often than our (old) Jura. Maybe someone else can write you the exact number.

The coffee temperature can be set in the "My coffee" menu in Low/Medium/High.
As such, definitely not accurate to the degree.
The experts also argue where the exact measuring point for the coffee temperature is.
The finished coffee is definitely "boiling hot" with the corresponding setting.

The grape marc container can hold around 10 pucks.

I came across it here by accident. Now the device runs with us already 1 1/2 years. Absolutely trouble-free. Before, we had the big stainless prima donna. Trouble without end with the milk supply. The coupling of the milk container is solved with the extremely protected milk tank. The copying elements on the machine have to be maintained daily, so they work well - but it is extremely difficult to do that. It was hell for us, especially since we mainly drink cappuccino. That the big touch display didn't work any more within a year and was only repaired after a fight on guarantee (too much coffee, 2 persons in the household) is not very nice either.

Good, the Ci still doesn't look great, but nothing has warped, nothing is broken off and there is only little to criticize. Since the two bean chambers don't work as it should, I removed the complete switching unit (child's play), now there's no more thin coffee (thin whistle) if you forgot to switch, anyway we only use one bean.

I replaced the worn symbols on the keys with a strip of laminate (white on black) from a Brother P-Touch printer. I would buy the device immediately again, if it would be available in a valuable optic (stainless steel). After all the bad experiences with DeLongi and Saeco we don't need to think any more since the Ci. Still enthusiastic after a year and a half.