melitta vs. Jura

hello,
like so many others on the search for a perfect fully automatic machine for us.
the nice gentleman from media markt recommended the melitta caffeo 76.
also he talked about the jura machines involving heavy maintenance costs

for help or advice for beginners I would be very grateful [/B]

Hello,

if you can believe the voices at günstiger.de you will find at least with the Caffeo 64 opinions that not only criticize several defects but also the customer service itself and wait a long time for spare parts. I'm afraid that won't be much different with the model you're looking at.

Ferner points to a comment with "Made in China" that even Melitta makes the cheapest and sells dearest. To me such manufacturers/brands are unsympathetic.

Jura seems to have maintenance lump sums so that you rarely get away under 150 euros, moreover I have read that occasionally "inspections" to make are. At least you should learn how to lubricate them yourself to avoid defects. See also http://www.kuntze.de

>I chose Delonghi two weeks ago because of the mostly positive voices on several websites and if there is something to it the customer service seems to work fast. Plus the security of the three-year warranty or 5000 cups. I don't want to say much more after the short time yet.

Greuss

Motorcyclist

Hello Kiki!

As I have a Solis X 100, which has the same brewing group as the Caffeo family, and a DeLonghi EAM 3200 S, I can report on both machines - so far - predominantly positive.

The piston seal (O-ring) in the brewing group of the Solis had proved to be problematic during the meanwhile 3-year service life. After I replaced it with the brew group, which had been improved in the course of the model maintenance (you will probably only find it in the Caffeo) and since I lubricate the gasket regularly with silicone grease, there were hardly any difficulties in this respect. Nevertheless, this seal is a wear part (abrasion, embrittlement due to thermal stress). Some manufacturers therefore recommend replacing them annually. I always have one in stock...

I have been using DeLonghi for 1.5 years now. Except for a crack in the coffee spout (manufacturing defect), there were no problems.

This seal is not accessible on the DeLonghi without dismantling the brewing group. So far there was no reason for this, especially since the guarantee of 3 years or 5000 cups has not expired yet.

Gruß

solist

what is to consider with this bold??

bin absolute beginner what va concerns

Hello Kiki!

The grease must be food safe, well adhering, water and heat resistant. You can read a lot of good things e.g. about the Multi-Siliconfett 1110 from OKS (I also use it).

As the lubricating film applied at the factory wears off over time and nothing is left of it at the latest after cleaning with a coffee fat solvent, the friction resistance in the cylinder of the brewing group increases. The piston becomes increasingly stiff and at some point the O-ring tears, causing the coffee to end up in the grape marc container instead of in the cup. In the worst case, even engine damage can occur.

>To prevent this, the O-ring and, if necessary, the cylinder wall should therefore be re-greased regularly.

>You will find lots of tips and machine-specific instructions on the web on this subject.

cast iron

solist

many thanks for the nice support