Ena 5

Hello,

we have been owners of an Ena 5 for one week. Now I have a question to the coffee professionals: Is it normal that the coffee tastes rather watery at the settings 'mild' and 'normal'? I have noticed that on the one hand, a little water always gets into the cup before the actual coffee is served, but especially towards the end, the jet becomes brighter and brighter. Finally, there's only water. The set water quantity is 170ml. The grinder is in position III, fine.
Is that so ok, or is something defective? Thank you very much for your help....

The shot of water at the beginning comes from pre-brewing, that's normal. Your chosen amount of water is quite large in relation to the amount of ground coffee, it is quite normal that only water comes towards the end. A "Caffe creme" usually has an amount of water between 90 and 110 ml, so the "pot" that you receive can only taste comparatively watery.

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Grüße, Manuel

Jura ENA Micro 9 (Küche)
Jura xF50 (Büro)
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Thank you...but isn't it the case that the amount of coffee is in relation to the preset amount of water? You can tap up to 240ml, that's probably more water than coffee, right?
Is this the reason why espresso beans (because stronger) are mostly used for vending machines?

The amount of beans that are ground does not depend on the amount of water set, but depends only on your choice, i.e. mild, normal or strong. For a mild "espresso" with 30 ml of water, about 8 grams of beans are ground just as for a mild "pot of coffee" with 240 ml, which is then correspondingly weak.

The choice of bean or roasting is purely a matter of taste; one cannot generally say that one should use espresso roasts in the VA. Nevertheless, dark Arabica roasts usually taste better in hot milk drinks than light cream roasts.

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Grüße, Manuel

Jura ENA Micro 9 (Küche)
Jura xF50 (Büro)
wechselnde Besetzung in der Werkstatt...
P.S.: Support gibt's im Forum, nicht per PN o.ä.

Then it probably makes sense to get 2 cups for a pot of coffee, then the amount of beans will be doubled, won't it? Whereby one cannot adjust the aroma in this setting - at least with the Ena - any more, which would speak against a doubling...
I have ordered myself - as recommended here on all sides - also times the trial package of Fausto. I'm curious...
Many greetings from OWL.

Yes, double cover for large cups is exactly the right choice. The Fausto beans are the banger, Caffe Crema in the fully automatic and Monaca in the espresso grinder is an unbeatable combination!

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Grüße, Manuel

Jura ENA Micro 9 (Küche)
Jura xF50 (Büro)
wechselnde Besetzung in der Werkstatt...
P.S.: Support gibt's im Forum, nicht per PN o.ä.

Hello,

I also have an ENA 5 since one week. I also find it annoying that the machine "spits out" some water before the espresso/coffee comes. With a cup of coffee, the sip is distributed throughout the cup, but with an espresso or especially with a ristretto, this is more annoying. It then becomes watery and at best lukewarm.

Can't you do anything about it?

cerreto

This may sound provocative, but a Ristretto simply can't be achieved by a fully automatic machine. Without the "sip of water" before, which emerges during pre-brewing, the coffee would emerge even faster and less aromatic.

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Grüße, Manuel

Jura ENA Micro 9 (Küche)
Jura xF50 (Büro)
wechselnde Besetzung in der Werkstatt...
P.S.: Support gibt's im Forum, nicht per PN o.ä.

What's still not clear to me...is the amount of beans that are ground at the setting '2 cups' actually greater than at the setting '1 cup - strong'? I'd almost doubt that. If I choose e.g. 2 cups (2x75ml) the coffee does not come along particularly aromatic... (the flavour is not changeable in this setting). 140ml/1 cup/strong - that's still to be represented - but I haven't tried many beans yet....

Am I right in assuming that when I set the grinder to position III my coffee gets more aroma and tastes stronger? I am currently setting espresso to I and Cafe-Crema to II. What are your experiences?

The espresso gets a different body at a fine grind it becomes fuller because the extrahtion time at a fine grind takes longer i.e. the water flows more slowly through the coffee powder at certain bean types/roasts but this can cause bitter substances That means the grinder must be adapted to the bean Jura writes in the BD light roasting fine grind dark roasting coarse grind. PS grinder always only adjust during operation PPS: Degree of grinding is only noticeable after second cup

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